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Your Monthly Credit Card Minimum Payments May Double
about.com ^ | unknown | Deborah Fowles

Posted on 12/27/2005 7:13:51 AM PST by No Blue States

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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
We have been looking into credit counseling, but it is hard to do when you have negative cash flow. Most we have contacted want their fees up front.

Stay away from them!!! This is a warning from the Federal Trade Commission.

141 posted on 12/27/2005 10:59:31 AM PST by A. Pole ("If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him." (Ezekiel 18:13))
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

Wow, youve gotten hammered hard lately and right at Christmas time too.
Im very sorry to hear that. Maybe my situation isnt so bad afterall. So what if you default on the cards? What can they do about it in OK other than send your phone number to the collection agencies and ruin your credit?
That used to be about all they could do in Tx I think, although im sure they have lobbied hard to be able to repo your soul.


142 posted on 12/27/2005 11:14:57 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
I understand what you're saying.

My original post was as much for FYI for everyone, as it was directed at you.

Many have never heard of and interest by-down.
143 posted on 12/27/2005 11:23:55 AM PST by Beagle8U (An "Earth First" kinda guy ( when we finish logging here, we'll start on the other planets.)
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To: Beagle8U

I bet someone reads this thread without ever posting and gains something from it. Maybe some youngsters reading will realize what credit cards can do to your finances and avoid it, or others might try your interest by-down idea.
Others posted great info also.

If nothing else more people realize some cc companies are going to raise the minimum payments soon.
It was suprising that FR search on this story and came up empty.


144 posted on 12/27/2005 11:34:37 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

They probably can't do much. The thing is it is our debt so we feel defaulting will be immoral. They have been pretty good about not harrassing us once we explained our situation. I am working on seeing what I can do to get them to reduce the interest rates.


145 posted on 12/27/2005 11:35:59 AM PST by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome (I'm Okies love Dubya 2's "other half")
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To: stuartcr; All

>>this is a revenue generator for the credit card companies.

1. Credit card companies are against this because they want lower minimum payments. Low minimum payments, and the people who base payments on them, are revenue generators for the CC companies.

2. Defaults do not help credit card companies. They want to be paid back on time, as slowly as possible.

3. The idea that credit card companies want this law so people will default or miss payments and then the CC company can charge higher interest makes no sense either. The CC company can just charge higer interst if it wants. It does not need an excuse. For those few who are adversly affected and their interest rates do go up, its not enough to outweight all the dowsides from the CC perspective.


146 posted on 12/27/2005 11:37:57 AM PST by On the Road to Serfdom
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

Good luck, I know how you feel. So do I, having spent the money Im obligated to pay it back.
Although imo cc companies are themselves immoral, two wrongs dont make a right.


147 posted on 12/27/2005 11:47:32 AM PST by No Blue States
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To: A. Pole
People who "pay off [their] credit cards in full each and every month" bring loss to the credit card companies. For this loss other credit card users must pay :)

I would be willing to bet that card users are paying more for the costs of others' defaults, rather than for the people not financing balances.

148 posted on 12/27/2005 11:51:56 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle
I would be willing to bet that card users are paying more for the costs of others' defaults, rather than for the people not financing balances.

We would have to look into this comples issue - there are tax deduction and banks ability to "create" money for lending.

149 posted on 12/27/2005 11:54:58 AM PST by A. Pole ("If he has exacted usury [...] He shall surely die; His blood shall be upon him." (Ezekiel 18:13))
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To: AmusedBystander
Generally, the best way to avoid credit card debt is to not get married.

My wife is more disciplined than I am, so getting married was a benefit in this regard. Her weakness is big houses, but they at least hold their value.

150 posted on 12/27/2005 11:57:21 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: dakine

Good timing! See the post right after yours!!

LOL! It gives some of our sterner brethren a chance to lecture the rest of us. Wouldn't want to deprive them by explaining we do understand the process but have different priorities.


151 posted on 12/27/2005 12:00:45 PM PST by Primetimedonna (The Defeaticrats were against Benchmarks before they were for them! Mark Steyn)
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To: No Blue States

How much would the payment be on a $0 balance? < /sarcasm>


152 posted on 12/27/2005 12:01:23 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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To: No Blue States
When you pull money out of your billfold to pay for something it amazing how serious you take the purchase compared to using a credit card.

Yeah, lots of people say that. I guess my brain is just wired weird, because to me it's exactly the same. My net worth is a number, and buying something affects that number in the same way whether I pay cash or not.

153 posted on 12/27/2005 12:03:35 PM PST by ThinkDifferent (I am a leaf on the wind)
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To: Primetimedonna

Yep, there's a word for the type....


154 posted on 12/27/2005 12:16:10 PM PST by dakine
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To: On the Road to Serfdom

I believe they would appreciate a higher interest rate being paid. If that is a result of people being unable to pay the new minimum, then they get longer payment periods, at a highre rate. The principals will never be paid off.


155 posted on 12/27/2005 12:34:49 PM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: brownsfan

Well, unless I hit the lottery (which I usually don't play), I'm paying off the cards in the most reasonable manner I know how to. I knocked 7 years off of my mortgage and got a lower interest rate as well. As long as I cut up the plastic, this move is a winner for me.


156 posted on 12/27/2005 1:06:19 PM PST by Sterm26 (Indict....no, HANG Joe Wilson!)
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To: Sterm26

Forgot to mention that my re-fi is for 20 years, my old mortgage was 30.


157 posted on 12/27/2005 1:11:32 PM PST by Sterm26 (Indict....no, HANG Joe Wilson!)
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To: Sterm26

"As long as I cut up the plastic, this move is a winner for me."

That is what matters. Formulate a solid plan, be comfortable with it, stick to it. It's good to know the implications of rolling that type of debt into a mortgage. If you decide to do so, and you're informed, great. I don't know your situation, in your shoes, I may do the exact same thing.


158 posted on 12/27/2005 1:19:27 PM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

You are doing the right things on your own, without the use of a counseling service. Once you use one, it shows the same on your credit report as a BK.


159 posted on 12/27/2005 1:25:37 PM PST by hayseed
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To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
"We have been looking into credit counseling..."

Please, whatever you do - stay away from credit counselors. The fees you pay would do better applied to your debt and YOU have more bargaining power with your lenders than you would getting a third party involved.

160 posted on 12/27/2005 3:50:44 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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