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To: Dundee
"For once, France had the right idea..."

When France destoyed the Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand it had nothing to do with Whaling it had to do with the plans of Greenpeace to disrupt Frances nuclear weapons program.

It was an act of terrorism that resulted in the death of one of the Greenpeace crew. A women involved in the sabotage is now a highly placed French intelligence officer.

So when the French are involved in a terrorist act against Greenpeace the French are heroes but if they go against US foreign policy in Iraq they're surrender monkeys.

I think your defense of the French is rather selective.

The Japanese are mining the oceans of every fish they can harvest with no care at all for the future.

Look at a sushi menu and half the sashimi is no longer available. You're lucky if you can get red toro, torigai or mai mai.
6 posted on 12/26/2005 10:10:00 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: beaver fever
When France destoyed the Rainbow Warrior in New Zealand it had nothing to do with Whaling it had to do with the plans of Greenpeace to disrupt Frances nuclear weapons program.

So? That seems like a MORE reasonable reason to bang the boat. The French were conducting critical military work during the cold war. Greenpeace attempted to disrupt it. France disrupted the disrupters.

It was an act of terrorism that resulted in the death of one of the Greenpeace crew.

By planning to f*ck with the military of a existing nation Greenpeace moved from being an advocacy organization to being a private militia.

A women involved in the sabotage is now a highly placed French intelligence officer.

Well she was ordered to carry out a mission and did so successfully. I would not expect her to be punished for that, anymore than I would expect individual Marines to be punnished because some liberal presstitute doesn't like the target of a Navy bombing mission. Duh!

So when the French are involved in a terrorist act against Greenpeace the French are heroes

Who said it was heroic? Needed, maybe. But it was a no risk mission, not the stuff heros are made of.

but if they go against US foreign policy in Iraq they're surrender monkeys.

No, that's not it. We dislike the Frence currently because of their behaviour re: Iraq. Key politicians were taking bribes from the horrid Saddam, while lecturing the US diplomats about morality - that makes them absurd posers.

I think your defense of the French is rather selective.

Well I'm not the person you wrote this to, but just because one approves or disaproves of a single act doesn't mean that there is a single description that can encapsulate an entire people. "Selective = Intellegent". Only non-thinking idiots think you can correctly call out a whole nation based on a single act. Call 'em as you see 'em. France has done both great things and stupid things in the 20th century.

The Japanese are mining the oceans of every fish they can harvest with no care at all for the future.

This has nothing to do with France's actions RE: Greenpeace circa 1985.

Look at a sushi menu and half the sashimi is no longer available. You're lucky if you can get red toro, torigai or mai mai.

I prefer a nice t-bone anyway. If this bugs you STOP EATING FISH !! It's only the appetites of people like you that lead fishermen to fish. Based on your detailed knowledge of weird Jap fish dishes like sashimi and sushi I take you are a big time fish eater -- and therefore a huge part of the FISH KILLING problem. Stop now !!

11 posted on 12/26/2005 11:29:55 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: beaver fever
Look at a sushi menu and half the sashimi is no longer available. You're lucky if you can get red toro, torigai or mai mai.

In my book, raw fish = Bait.

13 posted on 12/26/2005 11:53:03 PM PST by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: beaver fever
Of course his defense is selective. That makes sense. If they do something right, it is good. If they do something wrong, it is bad. No? What, prey tell, is wrong with that?

As for the susi, I haven't heard of any of those things and I eat susi all the time. I guess it is no longer available to me because you ate it all up! Hypocrite.

18 posted on 12/27/2005 12:11:27 AM PST by bluefish (Holding out for worthy tagline...)
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To: beaver fever
Your definition of 'terrorist' is pretty loosely drawn. You seem to feel that as the self appointed moralists of the seas, greenpeace can do what it likes regardless of the law, and all sovereign nations have to allow them to or they are terrorists. <>This is utter nonsense.

In that particular case (as well as many others) greenpeace was operating outside the law. By that logic (if you don't mind me stretching the use of the word) anytime a policemen hurts someone in the act of arresting them, they are 'terrorists'.

Greenpeace doesn't have a leg to stand on. The self appointed almost never do.

41 posted on 12/27/2005 4:55:40 AM PST by tcostell
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