It's strange that these two groups are actually so alike.
Hope you had a Merry Christmas!!!
...and, no, endlessly arguing about evolution is pointless.
Someone else once pointed out the futility of doing such things......"Straining at gnats and swallowing camels"...or something like that.
redrock
"the alter of "Evolution"......"
OH! I like that. The alter of Evolution. Sounds like a good book title. Read closely, redrock.