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Missouri approves tracking cell phones for real-time traffic data
Kansas City Star via AP via kansascity.com ^ | 12/2/05 | GARANCE BURKE

Posted on 12/25/2005 5:28:12 PM PST by elkfersupper

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To: jess35
The roads in New Mexico (If you can call them that) would chew up and spit out most newer model vehicles.

Isn't that the truth. Even the Interstates are bone-jarring.

81 posted on 12/26/2005 12:39:32 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

btt


82 posted on 12/26/2005 12:40:33 PM PST by paulat
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To: elkfersupper

thanks for the heads-up, elk!


83 posted on 12/26/2005 12:41:07 PM PST by paulat
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To: elkfersupper

I'll be turning the cell phone off if this ever gets to Texas.


84 posted on 12/26/2005 1:07:22 PM PST by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: paulat

Be careful out there.


85 posted on 12/26/2005 1:15:18 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Richard-SIA
Unless I can find out how to disable the OBD's and any other Big Brother trash I will never own anything newer than these.

Until they make them illegal to drive!

86 posted on 12/26/2005 2:51:58 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Keith in Iowa
They won't have the capability of interfacing with the cell company's database and connect the electronic serial numbers to people.

Yet.....


87 posted on 12/26/2005 2:53:19 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Is Jim Rob simply a FRONT for finding and IDing patriots and their ilk?

Suck 'em in for 8 years to make feel 'safe' and then round 'em up?


88 posted on 12/26/2005 2:56:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

I didn't list my guns.

If it gets to that point, the new revolution will be on!


89 posted on 12/26/2005 4:14:40 PM PST by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

I could clean out some room here if you want to get rid of the GT-6 or the Willys.


90 posted on 12/26/2005 7:37:08 PM PST by 308MBR (Not only older, but bolder. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Gondring; All
without my consent.

It's in your contract with them that they won't?

I could find nothing in my cell phone contract (that I had to agree to if I wanted a cell phone) that said they would not send info to third parties.

There were several clauses that said that they could and would send information to third parties subject to the privacy agreement, which had some clauses about not using personal information for "commercial uses" that I took to mean spam and junk mail and certain types of marketing.

For all you people who don't like the idea of using cell data for traffic had better see just what's in your contracts. You may wish to switch carriers or pressure your current carrier to modify the useage contracts, and privacy agreements. If you have a cell, you probably had to agree to contractual details to get it.

I think the "disposable" pay-as-you-go phones may be different.
91 posted on 12/26/2005 8:04:35 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

And just the other day, my mother was castigating me loudly for getting rid of my cell phone.

She had no idea why I wouldn't have one. As if a legal marketer needs to be available 24/7 . . . in case a legal marketing emergency arises, I guess.


92 posted on 12/26/2005 8:07:07 PM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: B4Ranch

I'm not aware of RFID memory cards- for what?

What do you use them in?


93 posted on 12/26/2005 8:08:51 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Gondring

Here is a clip from a cell provider about privacy. It says they won't share personal information, but if they strip the personal information from their datastream, it's not personal- it's just a cell ID ping.

There really is nothing personal about a cell ping itself, it's the carrier database that links it to who you are.

This is nothing like the British programme to use a computer camera on your auto license tag to track your car- it uses a big linked database and an OCR to read your plate and record the time.

Your Privacy

We have a duty under federal law to protect the confidentiality of information about the quantity, technical configuration, type, destination, and amount of your use of our service, together with similar information on your bills. (This doesn't include your name, address, and wireless phone number.)

Except as provided in this agreement, we won't intentionally share personal information about you without your permission. We may use and share information about you:

(a) so we can provide our goods or services;

(b) so others can provide goods or services to us, or to you on our behalf;

(c) so we or our affiliates can communicate with you about goods or services related to the ones you already receive (although you can call us any time if you don't want us to do this);

(d) to protect ourselves; or

(e) as required by law, legal process, or exigent circumstances.

In addition, you've authorized us to investigate your credit history at any time and to share credit information about you with credit reporting agencies. If you ask, we'll tell you the name and address of any credit agency that gives us a credit report about you.

It's illegal for unauthorized people to intercept your calls, but such interceptions can occur. For training or quality assurance, we may also monitor or record our calls with you.


94 posted on 12/26/2005 8:28:56 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Xenalyte

Having a cell phone means that you transmit stuff all day, usually without being aware. I dislike it and am careful of what I do with a phone.

I still pick up baby monitors on the scanner in the truck if I don't restrict the scan freqs- I'm pretty sure the folks who have them are unaware they are transmitting audio from their homes.

Like most cellphone owners are unaware of how they work and that they frequently send pings to towers and recieve digital data (like software reconfigurations) from the carrier.

I don't think you can expect privacy when you are broadcasting.


95 posted on 12/26/2005 8:34:25 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Last month the phone company sent me a new card for my phone. I don't remember all the benefits they claimed but determining my location was one 'safety feature'. All I had to do was install the new card and the police would be able to locate me if I ever called 911 and asked for help.

I figure that since I don't drink enough to get drunk I alwasys know where I am. I'll keep the card in the drawer.


96 posted on 12/26/2005 8:58:41 PM PST by B4Ranch (No expiration date is on the Oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic.)
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To: elkfersupper
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97 posted on 12/26/2005 9:25:03 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Richard-SIA

OH????

You got GUNS?!?!?!

(Agent 26: get this dude's IP and track him down: soon!)

98 posted on 12/27/2005 5:16:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: DBrow
We have a duty under federal law...

HAHAHAH!!!!


 
We may use and share information about you:

(a) so we can provide our goods or services;

(b) so others can provide goods or services to us, or to you on our behalf;

(c) so we or our affiliates can communicate with you about goods or services related to the ones you already receive (although you can call us any time if you don't want us to do this);

(d) to protect ourselves; or

(e) as required by law, legal process, or exigent circumstances.

In addition, you've authorized us to investigate your credit history at any time and to share credit information about you with credit reporting agencies. If you ask, we'll tell you the name and address of any credit agency that gives us a credit report about you.

It's illegal for unauthorized people to intercept your calls, but such interceptions can occur. For training or quality assurance, we may also monitor or record our calls with you. 
 
 
 
I feel SO much better now!

99 posted on 12/27/2005 5:20:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
(b) so others can provide goods or services to us, or to you on our behalf;

How did I miss THIS???


so others can provide goods or services to us, or to you on our behalf;

100 posted on 12/27/2005 5:23:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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