Defying 'Silent Night' in Pennsylvania [Angry Liberal Christmas-Hater]

Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 25, 2005 | Judy Maltz

[I see my hands]

To: Jewdy

Jewdy, Christmas is an American Holiday. It is American culture.

You don't have to be a Christian to celebrate Christmas. Before you got here all Americans would enjoy the Christmas Holiday Season beginning around Thanksgiving and lasting through the early new year.

It's mostly a Christian rite but other faiths have always been welcome to join in the festivities. And they did. Not abandoning or compromising their faiths but sharing them in a celebration of American unity.

Dreidel.. yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, sorry that's the culture you have to offer.

Now get the f out of the USA.

[Chickensoup]

Go to the Jeruselm post and read the postings. From anger, to support to calling Jesus a bastard (MAMZER).

Interesting read.

[Wilhelm Tell]

It is my personal belief that God sent his son to the Jews because of all those on the planet they were the most sinful.

I don't know about that. The Jews had the Torah that taught a higher standard of morality than what the heathens believed. The heathens thought the Israelites were strange because they did not sacrifice their children to heathen gods (some Jews did adopt the belief system of the pagans, but that is beside the point).

[avile]

"I'm celebrating Christmas this year by watching all the "South Park" Christmas specials."
I thought you lived in Israel.
The writer of the article seem quite disingenuous. In fact I'd expect the story to be in an ADL newsletter. Frequently (we frumies) notice codewords used by our liberal brethren in federation rags etc. They will often start out by saying "Igrewup Orthodox"-sorta like "some of my best friends are"- to give their liberal dreck a hecksher.
We all know that other than a Chabad shliach, a religious Oleh would not voluntarily become a yored and move to a town without a religious community and school.
She is most likely a secularist with an axe to grind.
I remember having discussions with friend concerning anti-semitism and if Jews were at all to blame. Whether or not we are , people like her can ignite the flames, and how many Jackie Masons do we need to compensate for her?
How many Fritz Habers and WalteRathenau are needed to compensate for Rosa Luxenberg?
How many Sidney Riley's for Trotsky .
Apparantly alot.

[Alouette]

How many Fritz Habers and WalteRathenau are needed to compensate for Rosa Luxenberg?
How many Sidney Riley's for Trotsky .

How many Alouettes for Judy Maltz? :)

BTW I am in the U.S. but 3 of my kids live in Israel.

[DJ MacWoW]

These people are self-centered. It's all about how THEY feel and everyone should accomodate them. They're newcomers and everyone should change for them. And they're teaching their kids their selfish attitudes.

[macrahanish #1]

I live in north central Pennsylvania. I am an evangelical
Christian. Questions I would have of Mrs. Maltz:

- Why didn't you pull your kids out of the program in a
very matter-of-fact manner?
- Why don't you home school your children?
- What did you think rural Pennsylvania would be like?
- Why do slander the residents of this part of the state
by including Snakehead's quote?
- Didn't Carville help Barak get elected?
- Why do so many Jews support Democrats who NEVER support
Israel?

[clee1]

Somebody tell this beotch that she should have stayed in her insular Jewish community if she has a problem with the 85+ percent of Christian Americans.

Typical leftist; if it offends ONE person, all must bow down before them.

[Alouette]

Somebody tell this beotch that she should have stayed in her insular Jewish community

She hates them too.

[Ranald S. MacKenzie]

Judy is the Jewish turd in a Christian punchbowl, the proverbial partypooper.

For goodness' sake keep her away from the dip.

[avile]

"Somebody tell this beotch that she should have stayed in her insular Jewish community"

I doubt she was part of an insular Orthodox community in the first place.

[clee1]

Shoot, I couldn't care less how orthodox she is/was.

My point is that SHE made the point of how, all her life, she lived among and associated only with Jews. Then, she has the unmitigated gall to insist that rural America abandon their Christian heritage and customs, after she move there.

I cordially invite her to move back.

However, as a rule, I like orthodox jews; the secular variety I wouldn't pee on if they were on fire to put them out. Too liberal, and too damn pushy, for my taste.

[Lockbar]

Back in the early 1960's our whole grade school in very "wasp" & Republican Du Page County, IL learned to sing "hava na gila". We were all told it was a Jewish/hebrew song, and I don't remember any of us "christians" refusing to sing it. It was a fun song, so whats the problem?

Its amazing how conservatives can be sooo much more open minded than our liberal counterparts.

[avile]

I once had a discussion with a gentile friend. I said that I thought secular liberal Jews caused more antisemitism. He felt it to be the insular Hasidim. I guess you agree with me.
Woody Allen- " the rest of the country thinks all New Yorkers are left-wing Jewish homosexual pornograghers- sometimes I think they're right"

[avile]

Somehow I bet our paths have crossed.

[avile]

These are not Jewish Jews that are refusing to sing Christmas songs. These are the same Jews that fight Menora lighting and aid to Yeshivas.

[Alouette]

I thought secular liberal Jews caused more antisemitism. He felt it to be the insular Hasidim.

You should have said to your friend, the Amish are more insular than the most extreme Hasidim, why isn't there more anti-Amishism?

[VOA]

I hope this lady does a good re-read of The Book of Daniel.
It has a lot to say about excelling and thriving in a culture that
you don't agree with...and securing your own place without being
needlessly over-torqued about things.

[clee1]

I would tend to agree....

However, I don't think my position is antisemitism. To me, a person's religious, racial, and ethnic heritage means very little.

I don't like liberals, and I hate pushy, whiny liberals - regardless of race, religion (or lack thereof), etc. My experience has taught me that secular people of Jewish heritage, more often than not, fall into the whiny/pushy liberal category.

[avile]

I was not at all implying you were anti-semitic. It is however hard not to generalize about a people . I often wonder if someone has done a study to determine what percent of a population is needed to create a stereotype.