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Iran accused of rigging Iraqi general election (Debka)
debka ^ | December 23, 2005, 5:43 PM (GMT+02:00)

Posted on 12/23/2005 6:43:22 PM PST by strategofr

Thousands of Sunni secular Shiite and Kurdish protesters took to the streets of Iraq Friday, Dec. 23, over what they called “the biggest election fraud in Middle East history.” Their umbrella group Maram alleges the UIA’s commanding lead in preliminary results of the Dec. 15 poll and was rigged and is calling for a new election.

DEBKAfile’s sources reveal that the announcement by former prime minister Iyad Allawi, head of the Iraqi List and a key American ally, that he and the Sunni bloc of 30 lists were boycotting the elections, brought US defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld dashing over to Baghdad Thursday night.

Allawi alleges that convoys of trucks carrying sealed ballot boxes stuffed with forged voting slips and other documents went round polling stations on election-day and packed the ballot boxes with pro-Shiite votes. Between 10 and 15 of those trucks were intercepted by Iraqi security forces at the southern Iraqi towns of Qut, Al Amara and Basra. An investigation disclosed that they trucks were organized by Iranian intelligence agents to falsely boost the Iranian majority.

Rumsfeld will do his best to talk Allawi round in order to rescue one of the Bush administration’s greatest feats from collapse. Meanwhile Iraqi and UN officials are examining Allawi’s allegations.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: debka; iran; iraq; iraqelections; voterfraud
This is what I picked up before on the Internet, but failed to record the address.

I read it went way past that, with Iranians spreading rumors in areas of people against them that scared them away from coming to the polls---like saying the wells there were poisoned. Also some intimidation, if I recall.

1 posted on 12/23/2005 6:43:23 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

Debka? Any other sources?


2 posted on 12/23/2005 6:44:43 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: strategofr

BS


3 posted on 12/23/2005 6:46:16 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: peyton randolph

Really. I trust Art Bell more than Debka.


4 posted on 12/23/2005 6:46:35 PM PST by keithtoo (Leftists/Democrats - Traitors, Haters and Vacillators)
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To: strategofr; peyton randolph

"Allawi alleges that convoys of trucks carrying sealed ballot boxes stuffed with forged voting slips and other documents went round polling stations on election-day and packed the ballot boxes with pro-Shiite votes."

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Police Seize Forged Ballots Headed to Iraq From Iran

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11303.htm

12/13/05 "New York Times" -- -- BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec. 13 - Less than two days before nationwide elections, the Iraqi border police seized a tanker on Tuesday that had just crossed from Iran filled with thousands of forged ballots, an official at the Interior Ministry said.

The tanker was seized in the evening by agents with the American-trained border protection force at the Iraqi town of Badra, after crossing at Munthirya on the Iraqi border, the official said. According to the Iraqi official, the border police found several thousand partly completed ballots inside.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly, said the Iranian truck driver told the police under interrogation that at least three other trucks filled with ballots had crossed from Iran at different spots along the border.


5 posted on 12/23/2005 6:51:02 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: Dog Gone; keithtoo

See post 5.
Fake ballots were seized. Iran was sending in phony ballots by the truckloads.

We intercepted some, how many got through that we did not intercept?


6 posted on 12/23/2005 6:52:42 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: strategofr

It always amazes me, that people don't believe Debka, but they believe the NY Times.


7 posted on 12/23/2005 6:54:05 PM PST by FairOpinion (Merry Christmas!)
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To: FairOpinion
"Police Seize Forged Ballots Headed to Iraq From Iran"

And the other shoe drops. These allegations don't come as much of a surprise, unfortunately.

8 posted on 12/23/2005 6:54:31 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: FairOpinion

Two days before the elections is a long enough amount of time to secure the polling places of any tampering. I am sure that election officials and monitors were well aware of the incident and made every effort to secure the ballots.

I mean come on people, we also must consider the source on this one. The New York Times, what a bunch of you know what.


9 posted on 12/23/2005 6:57:05 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: FairOpinion

Even if they weren't intercepted at the border, I am sure the election commission and monitors were made well aware of the attempt and were very observant during the election.


10 posted on 12/23/2005 6:58:19 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: FairOpinion

"It always amazes me, that people don't believe Debka, but they believe the NY Times."

:)


11 posted on 12/23/2005 7:02:48 PM PST by strategofr
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To: strategofr

“the biggest election fraud in Middle East history.”

The middle east doesn't have much of an election history, do they?


12 posted on 12/23/2005 7:04:33 PM PST by WangoPundit
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To: WangoPundit

Didn't everyone vote for Saddam Hussein? No fraud there, right?


13 posted on 12/23/2005 7:07:32 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: WangoPundit

well now, saddam and the mullahs have had alot of experience with elections.


14 posted on 12/23/2005 7:12:55 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (the friend of my enemy is my enemy)
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To: FairOpinion

Those allegations were debunked by the American military who said no such seizures occured.

Remember the 2000 U.S. Presidential election and all we have been through since? That is a well-worn Commuist tactic which began in Eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR and the Berlin Wall. The first free elections after Communist control was loosened were won by non-Communists. The Communists first tried to rig the elections and when that failed they protested that the elections were illegal and corrupt. They then kept up that mantra by claiming the elected government was illegal and corrupt finally moved to impeach the leaders. Sound familiar?

Also, look at the Ukraine today.


15 posted on 12/23/2005 7:39:54 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Correct. The borders were closed for days prior to the election. No trucks could come across. The Sunnis are Iraq's Democrats, that's the parallel to remember.
16 posted on 12/23/2005 7:53:03 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Alan Colmes is a traitor, I don't allow Hannity and Colmes on my TV.)
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To: strategofr

The dispute is over 100,000 ballots out of 11,000,000. That's less than 1%.

Of the 1,500 Complaints only 37 are being considered serious.

This is a power play by the minority to get more power than they could at the ballot box.

They are acting like Democrats.


17 posted on 12/23/2005 7:59:27 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: SaxxonWoods
I heard Chuck Todd, who is a detestable lib from 'The Hotline', call the election a failure based on media reports of the protests.

Host John Batchelor and John Fund humored the moron Todd.

18 posted on 12/23/2005 8:02:14 PM PST by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: new yorker 77

Heh, the Sunnis, like the Democrats, can't lose, they can only be cheated out of winning the power they should rightfully hold.


19 posted on 12/23/2005 8:06:21 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Alan Colmes is a traitor, I don't allow Hannity and Colmes on my TV.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

"Remember the 2000 U.S. Presidential election and all we have been through since? That is a well-worn Commuist tactic which began in Eastern Europe after the fall of the USSR and the Berlin Wall. The first free elections after Communist control was loosened were won by non-Communists. The Communists first tried to rig the elections and when that failed they protested that the elections were illegal and corrupt. They then kept up that mantra by claiming the elected government was illegal and corrupt finally moved to impeach the leaders. Sound familiar?"

Excellent points. I have counted Allawi among the best of the Iraqis, which would go against your point. However, I wouldn't say that's enough to disprove your point.


20 posted on 12/24/2005 8:44:56 AM PST by strategofr
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