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1 posted on 12/23/2005 5:23:43 AM PST by xzins
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the businesses that hire illegals are every bit as guilty of weakening this country as the LIBERALS who aid and abet these people.


2 posted on 12/23/2005 5:29:05 AM PST by Jazzman1 (lol)
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Name these businesses please. I want to know who to boycott.


3 posted on 12/23/2005 5:32:49 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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"A high school is not considered successful by how many people it sends to the construction industry," Knott says.

Of course not. These HS Grads need to go to College and earn worthless degrees and become evn more indoctrinated.

FMCDH(BITS)

4 posted on 12/23/2005 5:34:33 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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Slavery, indentured servants, illegal immigrants,....

America's economic engine has always needed low cost labor. None of the above are very good ways to fill this need.

Our need for labor is not sufficient cause to allow all the problems associated with illegal immigration.


5 posted on 12/23/2005 5:35:48 AM PST by umgud (uncompassionate conservative)
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but still face labor shortages despite an average wage of $19 an hour.

I gotta call BS on this one.I know licensed electricians making $16 per hour,that have not had a pay raise in 4 years,and are in their 40's.I know some in construction (in their 40's) still making $12 per hour.Maybe somewhere across the country they make this much,but it can't be "average".

6 posted on 12/23/2005 5:38:58 AM PST by quack
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Construction industry lobbyists, however, say they've been trying for years to get young Americans interested in their profession but still face labor shortages despite an average wage of $19 an hour.

I know college graduates with years of work experience who would be perfectly happy to get a job paying $15 an hour.

7 posted on 12/23/2005 5:40:02 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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What a load of horse manure! Turn the task over to Mastercard or Visa. They check millions of transactions every day. This is just a ridiculous excuse for hiring illegals because employers want cheap labor.


8 posted on 12/23/2005 5:41:03 AM PST by kittymyrib
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waaahahaaaa! (*business tears*) I have to play by the rules and hire real american citizens and pay them minimum wage!!!


9 posted on 12/23/2005 5:47:55 AM PST by z3n
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The provision is aimed at ending the widespread use of phony Social Security numbers by illegal immigrants looking for work in the United States.
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Business groups also are upset about what Sensenbrenner didn't include in his bill: a guest worker program or some other legal channel for businesses to employ more people from other countries.
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Business lobbyists say immigrants are needed to fill jobs that can't be filled by Americans.
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Senate may help businesses Business lobbyists hope the Senate will include a guest worker program when it takes up immigration reform next year and they'll end up with a bill more to their liking.

That's exactly what Tancredo fears.

He predicts there will be "a lot of hoopla" about the House immigration bill, which was expected to pass by Dec. 16, but its enforcement provisions will be undermined by the Senate's demand for a guest worker program.

When the final bill emerges from a House-Senate conference, "it will be very, very ugly," he predicts. "I am very worried about it."

Bump

11 posted on 12/23/2005 6:15:46 AM PST by A. Pole (Thomas Jefferson: "Merchants have no country.")
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A bill that would ultimately federalize the hiring of all employees, for businesses big and small, and all anyone can comment on is how it will effect the hiring of illegal immigrants? Hello?
12 posted on 12/23/2005 6:20:23 AM PST by MajorityOfOne
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Get in touch with your Senators early and often on this bill. Especially during it's debate and amending. Tell your Senators that you are watching closely and that this bill is very very important to you. A vote by them in the wrong way could very well change your vote. The House squirmed and so will the Senate.


14 posted on 12/23/2005 6:29:45 AM PST by Sterco
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The I-9 uses Social Security cards as secondary identification.

Anyone can gin-up a fake Social Security card in about 30 minutes. Scan one, change the name, print it.

For primary ID, there are all sorts of "legitimate" driver's license templates for sale on the Internet. Or one can use use a school ID (easily forged) or voter's registration (with no photo).


17 posted on 12/23/2005 7:09:49 AM PST by angkor
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Businesses are especially concerned about a requirement to check all employees' Social Security numbers -- not just new hires -- within six years. That's "an enormous undertaking," says Laura Reiff, an immigration attorney at Greenberg Traurig and co-chairwoman of the Essential Worker Immigration Coalition.

It's already being done. The SSA's "no match" letters for both employers and employees identify mismatches between reported W-2 data and the SSA Master Earnings File. But, that "enormous undertaking" equals big bucks for lawyers, eh?

I don't understand businesses defending such uneconomical Latino labor. Build the damn fence, put troops on the Mexican border, whatever.

Why hire five-dollar-an-hour Hispanic migrant labor when Red China has 800 million peasant citizens many of whom would work here unlimited hours for a dollar an hour and a clean place to sleep on the premises.

I thought businessmen understood economics.

Need 50 million? 100 million? Chinese workers. Just ask.

Technical workers too! The Chi-coms have millions of them. Maybe ten dollars an hour tops -- all have perfect GPAs and perfect scores on the GRE. All ten feet tall just ask Silicon Valley tech firms.

21 posted on 12/23/2005 7:55:08 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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"Even in construction, where immigrants make up one-fourth of the work force, the unemployment rate for native-born Americans is 11%, reports the Center for Immigration Studies, an anti-immigration research organization."

!/4th mu eye!! In California construction jobs are close to 3/4ths illegal, thus wiping out our middle class blue collar construction workers.


22 posted on 12/23/2005 7:58:11 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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ping


25 posted on 12/23/2005 8:13:10 AM PST by DumpsterDiver
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ping


27 posted on 12/23/2005 10:10:15 AM PST by gubamyster
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Start building the fence.

It should be made a felony for Criminals who overstay their visas and Invaders.

I believe we should give amnesty to these poor CRIMINALS or INVADERS.
This should be a 2 week amnesty to get the heck out of our Country.
The ones who ignore this amnesty should be buried in a tent city jail and fined $10,000 or buried elsewhere.
All aiders and abettors of these CRIMINALS or INVADERS should get 1 year in a tent city jail and a $10,000 fine for each CRIMINAL aided.
Those in government should be the first ones charged.


28 posted on 12/23/2005 10:14:06 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Giving power and money to Congress is like giving liquor and car keys to teenage boys. - P.J. O'Rour)
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So, the businesses who protest, send INS, or Border control and check for illegal aliens. We will probably find and be able to deport a lot of them.


29 posted on 12/23/2005 10:16:40 AM PST by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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Business lobbyists hope the Senate will include a guest worker program when it takes up immigration reform next year and they'll end up with a bill more to their liking.

That's exactly what Tancredo fears. When the final bill emerges from a House-Senate conference, "it will be very, very ugly," he predicts. "I am very worried about it."

Tancredo's fear of a "guest worker", watered down Senate version is warranted. Let's keep applying pressure to our Representatives and Senators to produce a strong, enforceable conference report on immigration.

31 posted on 12/23/2005 10:55:16 AM PST by afnamvet
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"Construction industry lobbyists, however, say they've been trying for years to get young Americans interested in their profession but still face labor shortages despite an average wage of $19 an hour.

"A high school is not considered successful by how many people it sends to the construction industry," Knott says."

Total lies.

Go to your nearest trade tech high school and ask the kids who poses the greatest threat to them getting jobs in their chosen trades and without exception, they'll answer "illegals" .


38 posted on 12/23/2005 6:31:48 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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