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To: knowledgeforfreedom; b359
"I'm willing to include God in science, as soon as you devise a way to test that theory and falsify it. Until then, it is belief and not science."

Tell me what science states that a system with initial conditions, @t=0, has zero energy yet suddenly at t=1 millisec, explodes into a system with all the energy contained by our current universe, without any external energy applied?

That formula does not exist. It is nonsensical. There was a creative force for our universe. Energy came from somewhere for some reason outside the bounds of our currently defined universe.

Do you know that science has lately discovered that up to 10, possibly 11, dimensions may exist? We live in only 4 of them.

Can you tell me that in the remaining 6 dimensions there may not be an intelligence? If we have intelligence in our current 4 dimensions, why would it be inconceivable that the other 6 not also have intelligence?

Can you tell me that the source of the energy in our current 4 dimensions may not have originated from any of the other 6? No. It is the only possible source of the energy that we know of now.

Can you tell me that the intelligence (that is more likely than not to exist) in the other 6 dimensions was not responsible for our universe? Nor can I. But I certainly cannot rule it out. It must remain a hypothesis until more advanced science can test it out.

Tell me an ID does not exist in the other 6 dimensions and I will call you a fool, and I will certainly call you very unscientific. An ID may not exist in those other 6 dimensions, but you cannot scientifically exclude the hypothesis.

BTW: It is believed that those other 6 dimensions include additional dimensions of time. Thus, time would comprise a surface, or even a 3-dimensional space in which it is possible to move about, forward and back, and sideways. That would be consistent with the Bible however, so we cannot allow "science" to conceive of such possibilities, can we?

BTW2: In those other dimensions of time, should life of some form exist, then it would be eternal life, though it may have zero dimensions in mass (i.e. spirit). (another Biblical reference).

BTW3: Magnetic and electric fields (also strong, weak) have zero dimensions in mass. They have no matter. Those fields, in a way, do not exist in our 3 dimensions of space, but they do effect matter that does exist in our dimensions. We know of the fields only because we can measure their effects on matter. They can be said to be of the same form as "spirits". No mass but able to affect matter, and able to carry information.

"God is a spirit" said Jesus Christ.

290 posted on 12/28/2005 11:35:50 AM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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