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To: Mark Felton
Felton, I've been waiting for you!

Great posts, keep up your stance for Christ.

I have written many posts rebutting evolution but mostly get insults in return, no one wishes to imagine the sheer mathematical improbability that random mutations can evolve into highly ordered (engineered) life forms, that all the universe subscribes to immutable physical laws and that scientific conundrums (Haldane's Dilemma, as one example)dispute the evolutionary model (notwithstanding the fraud historically used to perpetuate evolution).

I have offered this compromise with no success on these forums: Teach evolution as a theory, with critical review of it's problems and inconsistencies but also provide symptomatic examples that support intelligent design, no dogma. Allow the pupils to decide for themselves.

That's not acceptable because that premise assaults the faith foundation of evolution. Science cannot adjudicate evolution as fact, it's still a theory. Such a strong belief in evolution as a law requires faith just as great as ours, pure and simple.
210 posted on 12/24/2005 7:37:59 AM PST by b359
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To: b359
it's still a theory. Such a strong belief in evolution as a law

Hmmm... so is it a theory or a law?

211 posted on 12/24/2005 7:40:16 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: b359
"...no one wishes to imagine the sheer mathematical improbability that random mutations can evolve into highly ordered (engineered) life forms,"

Scientists are certainly now recognizing that the improbabilities themselves are so large that they cannot be adequately accounted for by current science which simply supposes random processes.

Thus, they are creating theories such as the "multiverse" which states that there are an inifinite number of universes, each with a random set of physical parameters, and our universe just happens to be THE one universe with all the correct numbers.

They come up with this theory, which is more improbable than intelligent design, and are immediately accepted as worthy of inclusion in the scientific millieu, yet ID must be rejected simply because it is consistent with Biblical teachings.

This is a clear demonstration of the pro-atheist bias in academia and in the media, which has a great influence in science by influencing those who fund science.

This occurs even while most Western scientists themselves believe in God personally. They are fearful however of attributing their scientific work to God because of the systemic bigotry.

really the problem is the modern passivity of Christians in society who have been brow-beaten to accept that peace is prefearable to confrontation when it comes to faith.

Yet, Christ specifically argued against peace when it comes to these matters. Christ expects us to be persecuted because He expects that we will be open about faith and not let family or others "shut-us up".

Christians must arise again. Catholics, in particular, are guilty of subordinating their faith to the whims of the State but I wish they, and all Christians, would pay closer heed to the words of Jesus Christ.

“Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.
"For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’
"He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
"And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
"He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it."
-- Matthew 10:34-39

Those who lose their life for Christ will find eternal salvation. Yet, so many of us are not even willing to stand firm in the face of mere public pressure.

271 posted on 12/26/2005 12:43:34 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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