[Lady Heron]

"Celebrating Christmas is not a violation of separation of church and state," she said. "The Framers intended that the First Amendment to the Constitution would prohibit the establishment of religion, not prohibit any mention of religion or reference to God in civic dialogue."

This stupid woman needs to actually read what the founders wrote on this very subject because she has no clue!

[chiller]

Did I misread something, or did you?

[liberty_lvr]

Well, since you seem to be so enlightened on the Framer's intentions perhaps you would like to fill the rest of us in?

Uh-huh. Thought so.

[jackibutterfly]

Lady Heron - I think you misread that sentence - I don't see anything wrong with what she said. In fact, what she said IS correct. I think you need to re-read that.

[Fruit of the Spirit]

I think Jefferson put it best:

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man & his god, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" thus building a wall of eternal separation between Church & State. Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect,..." (http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpost.html)
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Back in the mid-1600s, the king of England was insisting that the Church of England be the only church. This was one (among many) of the issues that lead to the king's execution. When Cromwell came into power, many of the nobles and aristocrats fled to America (some Americans have more royal blood than Europeans) and, remembering what it was like in England, these 'refugees' wrote a constitution that would guarantee the rights and liberties of the citizens.