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To: Mr. Buzzcut
A member of arguably the best one-season staff ever with Palmer, Cuellar and Dobson in 1971.

I agree, it certainly is in the running -- there hasn't been a staff with four 20 game winners since, and you had to go back to the early 1900s to find one before that. Funny thing about that staff, there was no really outstanding relief pitcher and, not that one was needed, no real fifth starter -- Grant Jackson was the "in a pinch" guy. The pen had Eddie Watt, Dick Hall, Pete Richert, Tom Dukes -- okay, but nothing special. The Orioles churned out outstanding pitchers with incredible ease for years and years. Starting with the Pappas, Estrada, Barber, Fisher "Kiddie Corps" of the early 60s, then pitchers like Wally Bunker and Tom Phoebus and Dave Leonard had their brief moments, on through Palmer, Cuellar, McNally and Dobson to the Flanagan, MacGregor, Stone, Martinez and Boddicker era.

The Braves late 90s staffs of Maddux, Glavine, Smoltz and either Avery, Millwood or Neagle were no slouches either. Or way back, the Indians of the early to mid-50s with Feller, Wynn, Garcia and Lemon -- three of them in the Hall of Fame. Or for that matter the Yankees of that same era, with Ford, Reynolds, Raschi and Lopat.

Jeez, I'd better get my Christmas hat back on, this is turning into real Hot Stove League stuff here!

79 posted on 12/24/2005 8:14:15 AM PST by speedy
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To: speedy
Funny thing about that staff, there was no really outstanding relief pitcher and, not that one was needed, no real fifth starter

It amazes me that guys back then, lacking all the technology and training expertise we have now were able to pitch as much as they did and never complain.

Complete games were not a novelty back then!

80 posted on 12/24/2005 8:35:44 AM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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To: speedy
Jeez, I'd better get my Christmas hat back on, this is turning into real Hot Stove League stuff here!

Less than 3 months till pitchers and catchers report ...

81 posted on 12/24/2005 8:36:39 AM PST by Mr. Buzzcut (metal god ... visit The Ponderosa .... www.vandelay.com ... DEATH BEFORE DHIMMITUDE)
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