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To: Shalom Israel

"Why do you keep humiliating yourself?"
I reread all of your posts on the previous thread and became convinced by your logic that as you indicated that the act of warrantless surveillance which may have been legal it was not constitutional.

As I was reading your posts you made several good points with other posters that I had to agree with one of which was that by just doing the legal thing rather than the following the Constitution we have closed our minds to other possible solutions that are constitutional.

As I continued to read other Freepers opinions I was still convinced that you were right in your belief that the President acted unconstitutionally.

Since neither of us are Supreme Court Justices (those are the funny people in black robes that determine if a law is constitutional) I have to rely on them.

So when I read this "letter" which quotes SCJ's it carries a little more weight than a conversation between you and I.


"As Justice Byron White recognized almost 40 years ago, Presidents have long exercised the authority to conduct warrantless surveillance for national security purposes, and a warrant is unnecessary "if the President of the United States or his chief legal officer, the Attorney General, has considered the requirements of national security and authorized electronic surveillance as reasonable." Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347, 363-64 (1967) (White, J., concurring)"
So when you ask why do I "keep humiliating" myself, I guess it is just my attempt to educate you about rulings that indicate something different than what you believe to be true.

By your answer I see that you are so smart you do not even have to read the letter or consider what SCJ's have said in the past.

219 posted on 12/22/2005 6:14:37 PM PST by Souled_Out
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To: Souled_Out
I reread all of your posts on the previous thread and became convinced by your logic

Thank you, that's very flattering. In context, however, it sounds like "I used to be a Republican until..." In other words, none of your posts attest to this conversion, except this one--in which you inform us that you've converted back.

By your answer I see that you are so smart you do not even have to read the letter or consider what SCJ's have said in the past.

I fail to see where you get the idea I didn't read the NSA's letter.

224 posted on 12/22/2005 6:49:02 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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