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Senators propose taxing Internet shopping
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Posted on 12/22/2005 7:31:47 AM PST by BradJ

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To: trebb
If not, they tend to err on the side of charging the taxes.

Kinda reminds me of the Korean sweat sock vendors at the swap meets...they always make an attempt to charge sales tax too - I'm certain those proceeds all get reported...

61 posted on 12/22/2005 9:14:57 AM PST by ErnBatavia (I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
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To: BradJ
We have Republicans eager to increase taxes. I knew the Democrats would jump for this - but Republicans? If they keep this up, Republicans will pay a heavy price next year... for behaving like Democrats. They've been warned.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

62 posted on 12/22/2005 9:16:38 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: steve-b

>"Hello, Sausilito Police Department? We've just had a break-in; could you send an officer to 1313 Mockingbird Lane in Manchester? That's Manchester, New Hampshire... <

Sorry.I forgot high school was on Christmas Break.


63 posted on 12/22/2005 9:17:03 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Blessed

"This robs my schools and fir protection and forces politicans to increase property taxes."

Close the schools!


64 posted on 12/22/2005 9:20:14 AM PST by dalereed
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To: goldstategop

>We have Republicans eager to increase taxes<

Is the the IRS increasing taxes when they make a case on someone that has not been paying their income taxes when you have?


65 posted on 12/22/2005 9:20:21 AM PST by Blessed
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To: BradJ; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

But everyone thought it such a great idea to do this to smokers buying cigarettes over the internet.......but now that it is their ox being gored people are all upset.

As my 7 year old would say when she doesn't get her way - WAAAAAAAAA


66 posted on 12/22/2005 9:20:51 AM PST by Gabz
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To: dalereed

>Close the schools!<

What about the Fire Department and the police? Should we turn off all the traffic lights?


67 posted on 12/22/2005 9:21:55 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Gabz

Yep.


68 posted on 12/22/2005 9:22:42 AM PST by patton ("Hard Drive Cemetary" - forthcoming best seller)
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To: BradJ
This is costing states and localities billions in lost revenue.
BS - you can't lose what you never had. Freakin' greedy bast*rds.
69 posted on 12/22/2005 9:23:04 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BradJ

What a bunch of bull! Online retailers still pay income taxes, and the sales taxes that are not being paid the consumer is paying for in shipping!


70 posted on 12/22/2005 9:24:24 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature)
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To: Havok
Politicians, in general, suck. Just my two cents.

Wrong. Worth way more than two cents.

Although not universally true (see Ron Paul for an obvious exception), my rule of thumb is that anyone who wants to control others through government, no matter how the lipstick is placed on the pig with "help society, public service" etc., has a psychological pathology that makes him unfit to hold office.

71 posted on 12/22/2005 9:26:32 AM PST by jammer
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

>What a bunch of bull! Online retailers still pay income taxes, and the sales taxes that are not being paid the consumer is paying for in shipping<

Shipping is paid for at all levals it just happens to be included in the price when you buy at a store.


72 posted on 12/22/2005 9:27:15 AM PST by Blessed
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To: BradJ
If you want to put a hamper on internet sales this is one sure way to do it.

Yup, the internet isn't really any cheaper. You don't have to pay sales tax, but you do have to pay shipping & Handling. If I had to pay tax too, I wouldn't shop internet as much because I would prefer to be able to have the item immediately. I don't think this will go anywhere though. It's been tried before. I think these two Sinators need to be retired for even proposing it.

73 posted on 12/22/2005 9:28:28 AM PST by ichabod1 (Sic Omnia Gloria Fugit)
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To: BradJ

Bastards. If the Republicans are taxing us just as much as the Democrats then why bother?

We SO need a REAL conservative party!!!!


74 posted on 12/22/2005 9:33:58 AM PST by PeterFinn (Anita Bryant was right!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"No one is going to vote to raise taxes in an election year."

Oh come on. These Rats never met a tax they didn't like.

75 posted on 12/22/2005 9:38:59 AM PST by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

"Nothing is stopping brick and mortars from going online and selling to others."

Not quite true. But it's not the government that is hindering the businesses with real storefronts. Many manufacturers who sell through "authorized dealers" require that these dealers sign a contract that includes a clause forbidding the online sale of their products. If you are caught selling online, they stop selling you the product. The dealers with real storefronts are hurt because the manufacturers have contracts with a limited number of online retailers, allowing them to sell online.

And the brick and mortar retailers have higher overhead, are frequently required by their contract to provide (mostly unreimbursed) warranty service for the products made by manufacturers for whom they are authorized dealers (even products purchased online) and, on top of this, they are forced to perform the slave labor of collecting and delivering tax revenues to local taxing bodies.

Not that I want an online tax.....I just think that business owners are "taxed" enough by governments, regardless of whether they are online or on Main Street.


76 posted on 12/22/2005 9:39:41 AM PST by RouxStir (Peaceful Muslim?.....The Ultimate Oxymoron.)
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To: Blessed

Blessed: What internet retailer delivers its own products? If they maintain a store and delivery trucks in your state than they are already charged sales tax. When you bought your "I Love Big Government Book" from Amazon did Jeff Bezos drive down from Seattle and deliver it to you? Fire protection?? Can I call 911 in your state to track a Fedex package now? The reason that internet and mail order companies are not taxed is because they have no presence in your state. Shipping a package into your state via FedEx or UPS does not mean the retailer is using your precious roads it means UPS and FedEx are, and you can be sure that you State government is getting their pound of flesh from them. Court cost are paid for by the losing party.


77 posted on 12/22/2005 9:48:34 AM PST by azcap
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To: azcap
>Court cost are paid for by the losing party.<

The cost of providing courts is payed by tax payers.

>The reason that internet and mail order companies are not taxed is because they have no presence in your state<

Pressence in the state has nothing to do with it.They are sales taxes not property taxes.If the internet venders were not shipping to individual homes the wear and tear on our roads would not be as much(fewer trip miles)

The argument that I don't use the services is as bogus as some lefty not wanting to pay taxes because they do not support the war.I find the argument to give an unfair advantage to one retailer over another by using the tax code to be against everything a free people should stand for.If you don't like taxes get them repealed for everyone not a group of elites.
78 posted on 12/22/2005 10:03:28 AM PST by Blessed
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To: Havok

Senate to Havok, "We'll take that 2 cents."


79 posted on 12/22/2005 10:05:23 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: BradJ; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Americanwolf; Annie03; Baby Bear; ...
This legislation must be stopped!





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80 posted on 12/22/2005 10:49:31 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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