[Liz]

You are comparing apples and oranges.

In fact, your link underlines my observations to a tee.


Point One: this is America, founded by Europeans eager to get away from such morally depraved activity. The Founders wrote high-minded moral principles into our founding documents as the way they expected Americans would live in order to forestall depravity.

Point Two: In recent years, we've see the rock-solid principles of the founders being washed away by the ACLU, P'Parenthood, Separation of Church and State groups,in favor of secularism, situation ethics, moral relativism.

Now we are paying the price: the depravity the Founders fled from is resurfacing here.

[Junior]

... this is America, founded by Europeans eager to get away from such morally depraved activity.

And by criminals fleeing justice and the unscrupulous hoping to make a quick buck. America was not and never has been some great utopia attracting only the best and the brightest. Oft times we attracted the dregs of society, too. That's life. The depravity and moral lassitude is the same now as it was then; we simply hang different tags on it or blame something new ("moral relativism" instead of "demon rum" for instance).

[Liz]

JB, please, do me a favor, and post on my thread.


JB6 POSTED ELSEWHERE: "Judeo-Christianity teaches the value of all human life. Socialist humanism teaches the value of the species as a whole, undesirable individuals can be prooned or even whole subspecies."

And don't we all love jb6's tagline: "The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance."

One of our most astute FReepers.

[The Spirit Of Allegiance]

Thanks for the ping. One little correction:

The Founders wrote high-minded decent, Biblical, absolute moral principles....

There. Precisely correct.