[wayoverontheright]

Bush has had a much more difficult time defeating our fifth-column within than the terrorists in Iraq.

Does anyone else see the conspiracy among the Democratic party, the NYT, and network TV, TO DEFEAT AMERICA IN IRAQ?

They have tried everything they could; calls for withdrawal, the attempt to stymie our eavesdropping, and the attempt to end the Patriot Act are all efforts to DEFEAT AMERICA.

They have realized that VICTORY in Iraq is DEFEAT for them all, and they are pulling out all stops in what they see is the fight for their own survival.

[GAB-1955]

No, I don't see a conspiracy, but I do see a common mindset among the leftist MSM and the leftist Dems. If they were conspiring to defeat our cause, they'd be more active in trying to stop funding for the war, impeding military recruiting, and so fort. Instead, I see a group of people with mutual ideological bonds which include a distrust of GWB and a distrust of the use of American military power overseas.

I was reading, ironically, in Rolling Stone, that there is a split in the anti-war movement. Some merely believe that the war is a mistake and want to end it as quietly as possible, but the main organizers, including ANSWER, want to see a humiliating defeat for the U.S.

The only factor they have is a dislike of GWB. I can see that. If you don't see his good qualities, his personal habits can be very irritating. He stays on message, he doesn't listen to his enemies' counsel, and he's not interested in what Europe or Canada think. He's a reformed drinker and he is not an articulate speaker. Of course he irritates his opponents, who still think John F. Kennedy was the epitome of the American Presidency.

So, I don't see a conspiracy, but rather a group mindset that jumps on every perceived error and tries to exploit it for political gain. It's hard to be the minority party for a decade; no one takes you seriously in Washington. In the same way, the MSM editors and reporters have the same social set, and that doesn't include Freepers, so they are getting garbage from their friends and neighbors about the Republicans.

The only source is to stay the course. What can the Dems to to GWB? They're like Dallas Cowboys fans; though they had a streak over their rival Redskins, they've lost the past two games against them in a humiliating manner, and they can't get over that. The Democrats can't impeach GWB because they don't have 67 votes in the Senate. They can't take back both houses of Congress, even if there are midterm gains. They can't stop judicial nominations. They can only hope that the Republicans self-destruct. Unfortunately, in the DeLay scandals, they have some seeds of winning marginal seats. All politics are local in that sense.

If the Democrats were conspiring, they'd be much more effective in this opposition.

[clee1]

...in what they see is the fight for their own survival.

That is the crux of the issue, FRiend. They'll do ANYTHING to keep even a semblance of power.

The Rats have already been relegated to 3rd class status. Rush is right; they ARE even more ludicrous when they're out of power. I have wished that his other prediction was equally correct: that many senior Rats would retire when they discovered that they would not quickly return to power. Shizzle; it's been over a decade.

[FreedomPoster]

We are fighting a two-front war, one against the leftover Baathists and the Jihadis, and another againsts our own media and Leftie politicians.

Unfortunately, this latter front was largely ignored for years.

[Ouderkirk]

Of course ...we all see it. The MSM was opposed to the use of force and they have stuck to that template tooth and nail.

I have stopped reading the local paper, stopped watching the local news, network news and the news channels including Fox. I find what I need right here on FR.

Screw the media..they are dead to me.