("What if" in History - No. 1) Dec. 21, 1943: NEW YORK TIMES set to publish Navajo code

DFU "what if" in history | Dec. 21, 1943 | Jonathon Risen (fictitious name)

[abner]

Why in the world are you still awake on the East Coast?

I'm crazy. Plus I slept in til noon... I'm on a self imposed Christmas vacation. :-)

[Triggerhippie]

That you made an insulting inference that you now spin as merely a "question" still stands. Since you appear to have "issues" involving reading comprehension,I must clarify that I did not just call you "stupid".

You either can't read that I didn't post the original or you are a retard. As you figured out my post to you, I have to assume the latter. Note that I didn't call you a retard, I'm just assuming that you are.

I'll not respond to the fact that you were shabby in your initial post to a fellow FReeper, apparently you weren't reared properly (or, again, are simply retarded). Whether your attitude blast was given to the original poster intentionally or not is neither here nor there.

Don't post anything to me unless it is your apology. I recommend that you do the same for the original poster for your initial spate of ugliness.

[sarasmom]

LOL!
Have fun in the basement.

[GOPJ]

My "what if" question is, "If we had media in WW-II acting like we do now, would we in Iowa be speaking German, or Japanese now?".

My guess? German...

[Triggerhippie]

Sarasmom: I was not given implanted dental cyanide to suicide myself.

That's a pity.

[xkaydet65]

You're right. Didn't want to make the post any larger so I concentrated on the Trib's role. It has ben claimed that William Stephenson head of Brit Intel in NYC (at Rock Center) orchestrated the leak to cajole Hitler into a declaration of war on US. Still does not excuse McCormick's decision to publish the Plan.
Merry Christmas.

[fight_truth_decay]

f-t-d, that was a stupid and insulting comment, that denigrates the intelligence of the men who risked their lives, and of those who died, for this country.

I asked a question about the 29 Navajo Code Talkers of WWII (who could send and decipher codes in 20 seconds that would take a machine 30 minutes to decipher- example: 800 messages, free of error in a two day span) ..I did not make a direct comment and, therefore, was answered courteously above by another on the embellishment of said reference by the film itself. The reference to being expendible for "highly classified information" with the sometimes "prejudice" shown by a few of our military on all levels at the time of WWII. Bias did exist only to one who wears rose colored glasses; therefore, effecting the value of said person in this instance. I did not denigrate anyone. I asked a question, as for this reasoning, however, you might consider "stupid".

Remember these Code Talkers were even mistaken for Japanese and taken prisoner and/or fired upon by our own servicemen. They were, furthermore, never recognized for their service until Nixon did so (de-classified). The Japanese believed it was largely because of these Navajos and the survival of their native language that America was able to win this war.

Please accept my wish for you and yours to enjoy a Merry Christmas, despite my being "stupid and denigrating the intel" of our veterans or these patriotic American Navajos [I assume you mean] from your rant. Who ever said they were not heroes? They most certainly were. No dispute there. I strongly support all our service men and women .(Yours seem to be the blasphemous comment).

[fight_truth_decay]

Correction above: "Bias did and does still exist; however not to those who continue to wear rose colored glasses"...

[fight_truth_decay]

Have fun in the "LOL chat-rooms" where "Chat Code" has replaced intelligent and courteous discussion.
God Bless America

[sarasmom]

I refer you to the original thread
Your #4
#27
55
63
64
68
70
It appears you have a problem dealing with conflicting opinions, along with a lack of reading comprehension skills.
But those inherent limitations do not seem to interfere with your typing skills.
Let me guess, journalism major?

[fight_truth_decay]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year ....do have a journalism background ;)

[fight_truth_decay]

All those posts are not even mine...END Note.

However, I did enjoy reading them. ;)

[sarasmom]

I refer you to the original thread, again.
Your #4
#27 -mine
55 -yours
63-yours
64-mine
(#66 yours)
68 -yours
70-yours
#71-mine
#72-yours
I reiterate: "It appears you have a problem dealing with conflicting opinions, along with a lack of reading comprehension skills.
But those inherent limitations do not seem to interfere with your typing skills."
Do continue to pat yourself on the back for ...high self esteem.
It is obvious you have nothing else to add to society.
I am sure at least some of those who deal with you daily pray the God who protects fools, grants you his protection. Most of your aquaintances are likely to consign you to your fate, and start actively avoiding contact.
And you will never comprehend why that happened.

[JohnBovenmyer]

Actually the week after the Battle of Midway, the right wing anti FDR Chicago Tribune published a story that the victory at Midway was the result of breaking the Imperial Navy's code. FDR's Attorney General advised FDR to do nothing of a legal nature,fearing that criminal action would prove the story as true to the Japanese.

Very true. Thank heavens Jap hubris didn't believe the story. However, FDR's legal advice was good for a limited time. Once we had Japan occupied and the story had been officially admitted - 1950s or early '60s, well before Ultra was announced in the 70s, I don't recall precisely - then any surviving guilty parties could have been charged without harming national security and deserved to have been so charged. There shouldn't be any statue of limitations for such treason any more than for the holocaust butchers. The more important timing is how long their successful trial can deter the next traitor. Hanoi Jane would still be eligible if I had a court.

[Triggerhippie]

Sarasmom is halfway to becoming an idiot-savant. All she has to do is develop a skill/talent/personality. If she could read, or understand what she's reading, it would be a good first step.

I sure hope that Sara isn't the pinhead that her mom is, and that the "stupid, rude, and arrogant" DNA isn't passed any further.

[Triggerhippie]

I understand that that retarded b!tch (Sarasmom) likes "biscuits and mustard, mmm-hmmmm."