[msnimje]

Hmmm, Have they no ACLU in GB?

[paulat]

FYI...Drudge's source is on JimRob's "nono" list.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Great, and we will have Freepers who say if you're not breaking the law why does it matter?

[Pro-Bush]

Beware, the NWO Camera Network!!

[p23185]

Well goodness - isn't this a bit much? Certainly a lot more intrusive than an NSA supercomputer sifting through millions of comm channels looking for words like "bomb", "nuke", "missile", etc. Why should people be concerned that NSA is monitoring all comm channels that have a foreign origination or destination? It have been going on since the cold war - get used to it. They are not "listening to your conversation" or "reading your e-mail", UNLESS you are contacting the bad guys directly. Then you might have cause for concern and maybe you should get a ACLU lawyer and sue the Government for your civil liberties. Please do so, that way we know who the enemy is - come forward.

[cynicom]

Maybe Bush can borrow that from Brits and have it put in Patriot Act...

Why not..If you not being naughty, you have nothing to worry about, right?

[Mears]

Somehow I find this frightening.

[MediaAnalyst]

The MSM has been totally derelict on this issue. They spend their time paranoid about BUUUSH spying on a couple of hundred Muslim terrorists, but don't seem to have any problem with this type of reality, and its for more draconian threats.

For example, once your movements are tracked and entered into a database, it becomes very easy for anyone with access to know where you are. Perhaps your boss, your friend, a political opponent, a jilted lover, a stalker. Perhaps theft rings get set up. Real simple, have the G-Man verify that the occupants of said house are at work, and that they are far from work, G-Man calls up his buddy on the outside, and they have run of the house.

Sure, it can be done now, but it's hard work. With this system, it's just a few clicks of the keyboard.

But we too will get this soon, and those "children" mentioned in an earlier post will "thank" us for throwing them into a true Orwellian world.

But what the heck, it'll make tolling much easier, so the public will generally support it, and the MSM will lead the charge.

[RobRoy]

Right now I am working on a project in the US called AGOS. Smart cards are here...

[Dr.Zoidberg]

Those stupid b*stards. Who do they have advising them on public security anyway? Yurii Andropov?

This is a KGB Directors wet dream.

[LexBaird]

I am sure that Winston Smith will sleep more securely tonight, knowing that his whereabouts have been duly logged by Her Majesties Government.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

George Orwell is rolling over in his grave!

[WoofDog123]

the brits are so far gone...there is no way they are going to ever roll this back.

1) their media is to the left of ours, and their government and PC-lunacy still reads like satire here, for the time being.
2) their government is putting in place the mechanisms of a totalitarian state that Hitler and Stalin could only dream of, and DPRK would probably emulate if its serfs were permitted widespread use of 19- and 20th century technology such as cars and electricity. At present Westminster is content to merely repress unpopular viewpoints among the anglo-british gene pool, but the data compiled is going to be kept forever.
3) the legal mechanisms are already in place to force compliance. it is analogous to british subjects already being lightly restrained in a vice, with nowhere to go as it is slowly tightened.

I know there are folks on FR who might be willing to let the government put a thought-recorder in their skull since they have 'nothing to hide,' bur most rational beings would consider it a very bad idea to have the government database EVERY move you have ever made in your car from day x onward, with no real controls on who acceses that data today, or 5 years for now, or 20 when you become a political activist and run for local office, etc.

Just because something you do today isn't illegal doesn't mean you want to live with the knowledge that there affirmatively IS a government database somewhere with enough data to reconstruct the thing you have done at any point during the rest of your mortal life the second you come to their attention for some other reason. At present, in the US, aside from credit cards, tollbooths and cellphones, I don't think this infrastructure exists for the most part.

All it takes is one bad government and one real or imagined emergency and this data will be put to uses that even the 'record-my-every-move, I have nothing to hide' crowd will disagree with.

Did anyone who read 1984 actually think that one day there WOULD be microphones in the bushes in the UK? Do you think it is so far-fetched now?

[B Knotts]

Coming soon to a security state near you...

[af_vet_rr]

link to story at Independent

There are already cities in the US working on tracking who comes and goes (mainly Floriday), and with lawmakers getting a pseudo-national ID through the backdoor (in the form of requiring certain standards for state licenses else they withhold federal taxpayer money from the state), don't be surprised to see ths in the US in five or ten years. People are fast becoming used to cameras everywhere.

As long as the politicians say it's "for your own good", most people in the US will bend over for them.

[B4Ranch]

seen this yet?

Missouri approves tracking cell phones for real-time traffic data
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1546991/posts