Posted on 12/21/2005 6:13:04 PM PST by tsmith130
What a quote. The more things change ...
I agree
What debate? You haven't engaged in one, since you began posting to this thread. You are just disrupting the thread with your banal, inane posts and that patently ridiculous statement, that we don't need the Patriot Act.
I think Stevens comments about attacks were much broader than just what happened on the Senate Floor....but I didn't see everything....I thought he was talking about being attacked by the MSM also....
Your tinfoil hat is on too tight.
"I asked you about why roving wiretaps should be disallowed."
Not disallowed completly, you just need a warrant. The thing is it allows for way to much abuse when a the government can wiretap peoples' phones for no good reason. And that is what a judge's warrant requires, reason and enough evidence for a wiretap. I don't care what the government "thinks," they shouldn't think nothing. Have some evidence or get off the line.
Right on. I felt sorry for the guy, you could tell how pi$$ed he was as well as frustrated. I imagine the dems were getting a chuckle out of it. Such pukes.
Uh ok...so it's completely lost on you (and presumably your students) the whole thing about always being at war with Eastasia/Eurasia and the Party's perpetual hold on power. Yes we were attacked. But calling this a "war" that has no end is dangerous since the people who stand the most to gain from the expanded war powers are apparently the only ones who can call it off. If you don't see the conflict of interest there, you need the help.
It's a pity that you weren't in one of those planes, on 9/11. Someone worthwhile, could have been saved, if you had taken his or her place.
All the more reason to make the damn thing permanent.
you still need a warrant (for domestic communications). the questions is - how many warrants? one for each phone a person might use?
"What debate? You haven't engaged in one, since you began posting to this thread."
I've tried. But it feels like every time I start posting about the PATRIOT act, somebody says something that brushes me off course. Like now. I'll stick to subject from now on.
I find it interesting that posters here are so OUTRAGED about the Patriot Act yet they post personal info about themselves, their loved ones, etc etc. They get together and meet with virtual stangers and welcome them into their homes. Give me a break!!
Make that constitutionally mandated monopoly--on 1st class letters only. And Free Rural Delivery--try getting UPS or Fed Ex to deliver mail FREE to every rural address 6 days a week FOR FREE. Mail delivery is rarely discussed as one of the services that is covered when people start complaining about the price of stamps--but imagine how much UPS or Fed Ex would charge to deliver letters to every household in rural America--six days a week.
I've been renting a post office box since 1989. Nothing to it. For me it was as easy as signing up for Selective Service at the age of 18.
Decades old question being the 4th Amendment to the Constitution getting in the way of further federal supremacy over the respective citizens of the separate and sovereign states perhaps. But that's it. 20 years from now some of these same Republicans will be whining, much as they whine now about abuse of the RICO Act when it's used against anti-abortion advocates. Of course most of them will be hailing the State as doing what it needs in maintenance of the State
It's not really that difficult and actually it's pretty convenient.
Well how about if the phone is receiving an incoming call from a number associated with a Terrorists group?
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