[ndt]

"Not to fight Oceanviews battles, but just exactly where the F fid he say that?"

Notice that I posed it as a question, not a statement.

I said "I'm not sure when following the Constitution and rule of law became a controversial position."

He replied "when two planes flew into the world trade center"

I'm not sure how to interpret that except that the Constitution and rule of law became controversial after 9/11.

That's why I was asking for clarification.

[clawrence3]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact - if it becomes one, then YES ditch it!