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To: betty boop
"CG apparently sees morality as a bunch of pesky "rules" being imposed on one from outside."

Again, you assume too much. Par for the course.

" Jesus draws us; He does not "order us to do this or not to do that."

And if we disobey his orders, we burn in Hell. Nope, not orders at all....

"Unlike the case of the human family (into which we are simply born and have no say about who our relatives are), this is a "family" that one is free to join or not join, as the case may be. There is no coercion, nor could there ever be."

No coersion other than *Join or burn in Hell!*.

"For CG to imagine that Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell coming to power would mean the forced establishment of a theocracy is simply ridiculous."

Only if you ignore their words.

"The love of God cannot be coerced; the desire to live in communion with him cannot be coerced."

People can be coerced to follow the rules of someone else's religious faith. That's a fact.

" Does CG think these men are so abysmally stupid that they don't know that? "

Yes, I do. Theocracy has been attempted before; it's a fact in the Middle East. Are you so blind to think it couldn't be attempted here?

"Christians know that the imposition of religion is simply an exercise in futility."

Not all Christians know this.
138 posted on 12/23/2005 11:04:17 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No coersion other than *Join or burn in Hell!*.

Being given a choice is not coercion, CG. There's no point in getting angry at mom for basic advice "Don't touch the hot stove." Or shaking your fist at the stove, as in "Stovedammit."

But this is silly, comparing God to stoves. A stove don't love.

It should comes as a rite of passage for everyone nowadays to realize that self-determination and autonomy is limited. In your view we are "coerced" into life, and we are "coerced" into death. If that is the case, Christianity should be embraced, in that it offers "coercion" into eternal life.

142 posted on 12/23/2005 11:48:00 AM PST by cornelis
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