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Google Offers a Bird's-Eye View, and Some Governments Tremble
NY Times ^ | December 20, 2005 | KATIE HAFNER and SARITHA RAI

Posted on 12/19/2005 9:58:50 PM PST by neverdem

When Google introduced Google Earth, free software that marries satellite and aerial images with mapping capabilities, the company emphasized its usefulness as a teaching and navigation tool, while advertising the pure entertainment value of high-resolution flyover images of the Eiffel Tower, Big Ben and the pyramids.

But since its debut last summer, Google Earth has received attention of an unexpected sort. Officials of several nations have expressed alarm over its detailed display of government buildings, military installations and other important sites within their borders.

India, whose laws sharply restrict satellite and aerial photography, has been particularly outspoken. "It could severely compromise a country's security," V. S. Ramamurthy, secretary in India's federal Department of Science and Technology, said of Google Earth. And India's surveyor general, Maj. Gen. M. Gopal Rao, said, "They ought to have asked us."

Similar sentiments have surfaced in news reports from other countries. South Korean officials have said they fear that Google Earth lays bare details of military installations. Thai security officials said they intended to ask Google to block images of vulnerable government buildings. And Lt. Gen. Leonid Sazhin, an analyst for the Federal Security Service, the Russian security agency that succeeded the K.G.B., was quoted by Itar-Tass as saying: "Terrorists don't need to reconnoiter their target. Now an American company is working for them."

But there is little they can do, it seems, but protest.

Google Earth is the most conspicuous recent instance of increased openness in a digitally networked world, where information that was once carefully guarded is now widely available on personal computers. Many security experts agree that such increased transparency - and the discomfort that it produces - is an inevitable byproduct of the Internet's power and reach.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: computers; espionage; googleinc; internet; maps
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DigitalGlobe, via Google Earth
A view from above of the Kremlin in Moscow, using Google Earth.


DigitalGlobe, via Google Earth
Views of landmarks like the Eiffel Tower were part of the initial appeal of Google Earth. But its ability to show government buildings, military installations and other sites has alarmed officials in several nations.

1 posted on 12/19/2005 9:58:51 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Being a subscriber of the service from before Google glommed onto it, one wonders where these objections where then...

And absolutely anyone can purchase detailed satellite images, updated within a day or so, of virtually any spot on earth from commercial satellite services.
2 posted on 12/19/2005 10:03:07 PM PST by kingu
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To: neverdem

alt title, Google spies for the enemy for free


3 posted on 12/19/2005 10:03:31 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: neverdem

That google earth is absolutely addicting if your a map/geography junkie like myself.  One of the first things I checked out was North Korea and aside from Pyongyang, the two largest other developed areas I could find were both prison camps.

Be it checking out downtown Kampala, looking at Brazilian Rainforest clear cutting, or tracing rivers through the Sahara, you can't beat that program.

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

4 posted on 12/19/2005 10:07:26 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
alt title, some people get their underwear in a wad over nothing

This service has been available for a fee for some time. At some point in the future, when private industry takes over space travel and exploration and NASA is defunded (couldn't come a day too soon), there will be even more information available to the common citizen. Will that be 'spying for the enemy as well'?

5 posted on 12/19/2005 10:09:49 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Owl_Eagle
That google earth is absolutely addicting if your a map/geography junkie like myself.

I'm right there with ya, O_E!


6 posted on 12/19/2005 10:11:11 PM PST by rdb3 (I have named my greatest pain, and its name is Leftism.)
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To: neverdem; ASA Vet; HiJinx

MI PING!

The Leftist sites, "globalsecurity.org" and FIS, have been doing this as well - in addition to publishing American troop movements, vehicle schematics, and weapons performance.

Their creator, John Pike, will never be brought to task for his weakening of America. He's the darling of the MSM, and is trotted out for every "expert" slam they create.

I always urge people never to give these Leftists the Web hits and the ad dollars they so desperately need.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 10:11:32 PM PST by Old Sarge (In a Hole in the Ground, there Lived a Fobbit...)
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To: Owl_Eagle
I am addicted also. The first country I looked at was North Korea and was struck at emptiness of the streets in the capitol compared to S. Korea. It was spooky.
8 posted on 12/19/2005 10:16:10 PM PST by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: All
I downloaded the software a couple of months ago and were I live it's always cloudy, what's up with that??? And why's it never nighttime???????? [grin]
9 posted on 12/19/2005 10:18:25 PM PST by Doofer
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To: billbears
First of all I didn't get my "underwear in a wad over nothing".

"This service has been available for a fee for some time."
Yea and what of those enemies that could not pay? Does google exclude any US military installation, either permanent or temporary, from availability?

The rest of your comment is moot.
10 posted on 12/19/2005 10:19:36 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: neverdem

That isn't the KREMLIN that is St Basils CATHEDRAL. While bombing it would be a sick act and destroy an amazing beautiful CHURCH the KREMLIN would shrug. The KREMLIN is located about 1000 feet LEFT of your photo.


11 posted on 12/19/2005 10:19:46 PM PST by x5452
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To: neverdem

It looks like Ike Eisenhower's "Open Sky Policy" has arrived, with a vengeance!


12 posted on 12/19/2005 10:20:58 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: billbears
I said, "Does google exclude any US military installation, either permanent or temporary, from availability?"

If they do than I will be happy to retract my original statement.
13 posted on 12/19/2005 10:23:36 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: neverdem
"India, whose laws sharply restrict satellite and aerial photography, has been particularly outspoken..."

No shit?

What else would you expect from a country that has few aircraft and no satellites?

There's probably some religious prohibition against having your picture taken from 100 miles away...

14 posted on 12/19/2005 10:24:58 PM PST by Redbob
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To: neverdem

I used Google Earth yesterday to check out the home I moved from 3 years ago:

sure enough, my red Bronco was sitting there in the side yard.

(Does this suggest to you in the tinfoil hat brigade how current this data is?)


15 posted on 12/19/2005 10:27:11 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob

"There's probably some religious prohibition against having your picture taken from 100 miles away..."

Yeah, they are probably afraid of seeing a cow and bull go at it!


16 posted on 12/19/2005 10:28:35 PM PST by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: Redbob

Insurgents 'using Google Earth' (marries satellite and aerial images with mapping abilities)
London Sunday Telegraph ^ | 12/18/2005) | Jasper Copping


Posted on 12/18/2005 11:51:22 AM EST by Former Military Chick

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1542859/posts


17 posted on 12/19/2005 10:29:04 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Redbob
What else would you expect from a country that has few aircraft and no satellites?

What on earth are you talking about? India has their own space program, launches their own satellites, and they have quite a few in orbit right now.

18 posted on 12/19/2005 10:30:52 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Actually you did. I would suggest you do a Google search on NASA's Worldwind. A program much like Google Earth downloadable for free. But paid for out of your tax dollars. It gives you about 7 different satellite views. Look at Washington DC under the USGS Urban Area Ortho view. Quite the clear picture down almost to the cars. Hmmmmm, maybe NASA's helping the 'terrorists' too?


19 posted on 12/19/2005 10:32:38 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Insurgents 'using Google Earth' (marries satellite and aerial images with mapping abilities)

It's a false headline; the first lines of the article states Insurgents COULD be using Google Earth; it's pure speculation.

There currently isn't a single scrap of evidence that terrorists anywhere in the world have ever used Google Earth to plan an attack.

20 posted on 12/19/2005 10:32:50 PM PST by Strategerist
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