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To: Beelzebubba
You may accuse some of not living up to the principle of libertarianism, but to equate it with socialism is pathetic ignorance.

Marxists and libertarians share a similar conceit in that purists in both camps are convinced that government is evil and unnecessary.

The greatest difference is, marxists had almost a full century to test their foolishness to abject failure, and libertarians are still looking for the opportunity.

Conservative Republicans, on the other hand, have a wiser, more healthy and realistic understanding of the limited strengths and pervasive limitations of government.

It is liberals and progressives who believe government is the source of all rights and the healer of all ills. Not quite as foolish as unbridled libertarianism or pure marxism, but quite foolish enough.

18 posted on 12/19/2005 9:09:16 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles
Marxists and libertarians share a similar conceit in that purists in both camps are convinced that government is evil and unnecessary.

Wrong. Just plain simply wrong.

Conservative Republicans, on the other hand, have a wiser, more healthy and realistic understanding of the limited strengths and pervasive limitations of government.

Sounds like you've got the conceits that you accuse others of having. And a buttload of hypocracy to go with it.

28 posted on 12/19/2005 9:32:37 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: JCEccles
Marxists and libertarians share a similar conceit in that purists in both camps are convinced that government is evil and unnecessary. The greatest difference is, marxists had almost a full century to test their foolishness to abject failure...

Congratulations -- you've somehow surpassed the idiocy threshhold already established on this thread by Howie66... no small accomplishment.

35 posted on 12/19/2005 9:54:39 PM PST by Sloth (Freedom of speech doesn't mean the rest of us have to shut up.)
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To: JCEccles
Marxists and libertarians share a similar conceit in that purists in both camps are convinced that government is evil and unnecessary.

Libertarians, like most of the Founders, believe government is a necessary evil, and its powers should be kept to a minimum. They know a government needs to exist. This is different from anarchy or socialism.

57 posted on 12/20/2005 6:41:51 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: JCEccles

Marxists and libertarians share a similar conceit in that purists in both camps are convinced that government is evil and unnecessary.



You misstate the libertarian view, which does not call government inherently "evil", nor entirely unnecessary.

Your conclusion was arrived at using false premises.


60 posted on 12/20/2005 6:48:46 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: JCEccles

You're confusing anarchists with libertarians. Libertarians want limited government. Anarchists want no government. Distinguish their philosophies more carefully next time.


65 posted on 12/20/2005 8:43:02 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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