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1 posted on 12/19/2005 1:53:42 PM PST by Cinnamon
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To: Cinnamon

This isn't just partisanship. The Democrats have actively gone over to giving aid to the enemy.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 1:55:14 PM PST by MNJohnnie (We do not create terrorism by fighting the terrorists. We invite terrorism by ignoring them.--GWBush)
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To: Cinnamon

Duplicate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543466/posts


3 posted on 12/19/2005 1:55:42 PM PST by gondramB (Rightful liberty is unobstructed action within limits of the equal rights of others.)
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To: Cinnamon

Oh My God! Too many facts!

The NYT can't be bothered with this.

Bookmark for later, more close, reading.


4 posted on 12/19/2005 1:56:17 PM PST by BostonianRightist ("Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue." ~ Senator Goldwater)
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Sorry, but the government has gone overboard here and is probably in violation of the law. See we have a Bill of Rights that precludes spying on citizens without a warrant.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 1:58:28 PM PST by Holdek
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"For all we know our intelligence agencies have been exploiting these types of communications for years without the terrorists knowing it. Now they will fall silent, because now the bad guys know better. So New York Times writer James Risen will sell his book, the Times will increase circulation, politicians will beat their breasts and send out fundraising letters, and who will pay in the end? "

Who indeed.

I would hope the leakers and publishers also pay.A very tiny glimmer of hope is all I have.


22 posted on 12/19/2005 2:14:33 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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You don't actually expect leftists to read, do you? If they read the Patriot Act, they'd find out that there isn't really anything in there to complain about. I think the real objection is that many leftists know that it would be easy to mistake them for enemies of the United States and thus fear being the subject of such surveilance.
31 posted on 12/19/2005 2:19:37 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Cinnamon

Terrific post.


48 posted on 12/19/2005 2:33:18 PM PST by traderrob6
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"It would also help if the White House released some information on how the surveillance has helped keep the country safe. What attacks were disrupted, what terrorists were taken down, how many people saved? A few declassified examples would be very useful to ground the discussion in reality rather than rhetoric. "

Could it possible be that the information learned is still ongoing and is classified because of its nature? Perhaps the very nature of the mechanism of obtaining information has already jeopardize this important tool to keep us safe. The NYT and the leaker/leaker's should be drawn and quartered for disclosing something that might have prevented an attack in the future. Do I feel safe, not with these Bush haters doing everything they can without regard of the damage they have caused.
51 posted on 12/19/2005 2:35:22 PM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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Remember the kids and grandkids. These are the ones the NYT etal feel free to desroy the future of as they attemp on their own to bring down this Nation!!! And bet yer ass they consider it LEGAL, yes LEGAL. Think about it!!!!


88 posted on 12/19/2005 3:10:12 PM PST by Waco
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To: Cinnamon

MY outrage is not "unwarranted."

The slimes who did this should hang.


89 posted on 12/19/2005 3:10:44 PM PST by wouldntbprudent
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"blew our cover"?

Any Art Bell listener knew about Echelon since 1997...
http://www.rviewer.com/main/AB03-25-1997Transcript.html

And if you search the old FR logs, you will find discussions of it...

The NYTimes is merely behind the times in covering conspiracy theories...wait til they find out about BigFoot...
;-)


96 posted on 12/19/2005 3:18:39 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Cinnamon

Thanks for posting... good stuff...


133 posted on 12/19/2005 3:51:02 PM PST by tje
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