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To: caisson71

First of all, I think we need to find out if these wiretaps were illegal. From all that I've read and heard, including from people whose opinion I respect on such matters, like Bob Barr, they were illegal and unconstitutional. If that's the case, then I'm more concerned about the people committing the initial illegal acts than some whistleblower who is merely exposing illegality.


20 posted on 12/19/2005 12:34:25 PM PST by sandan
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To: sandan

why have FISA warrants if you're not gonna use them?
I read somewhere that 758 were applied for and the same # granted, so why not go through the warrant process?

just wondering.


I understand no president from any party has ever been quoted saying "I have too much power and I'd like to give some back to the people", but the arguments like 'I have nothing to hide so I don't care' and/or 'Clintoon did this ,too and more...' are getting tiresome.

I'm reminded again: no matter who you vote for , the gubmint always wins.


21 posted on 12/19/2005 12:39:35 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
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To: sandan

We're long past the legality of the act. Attorney General Gonzales has already said Congress has given President Bush the authority for domestic surveillance after 9/11. Both Pelosi and Reid have now admitted that they were briefed on this as long as 4 years ago. In 1993, former Clinton CIA director confirmed that Clinton had been using ECHELON - a super-secret survailance program - to collect phone calls, private emails, etc, to collect economic intelligence, all this prior to the catalyst of 9/11.


27 posted on 12/19/2005 1:25:17 PM PST by caisson71
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