Posted on 12/18/2005 7:57:09 PM PST by hipaatwo
"NSA does more than intercept comm. It is the military expert on crypto."
To be accurate, I think you should strike the word "military" from your last sentence. Unless you know a more expert org'n than NSA on cryptographics.
Ping for a trip down memory lane.... (see my post above).
PING for a trip down memory lane.
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what? this happened underr Clinton? why this can't be!!! where's the outrage! this is unheard of!
You might want to hit copy source code as well, just for kicks.
Yeah, and many of us were understandably disturbed at the thought of Hillary! making use of this system.
Is this more DERR??
see post *Derr Zot*
PING for a trip down FR Memory Lane.
I know all that. Still doesn't mean the RINOs or the MSM will bring it up.
http://www.eff.org/Censorship/Terrorism_militias/fisa_faq.html
18. Does FISA authorize surveillance without a court order?
Yes. In general, the Justice Department may engage in electronic
surveillance to collect FII without a court order for periods up to one
year. 50 U.S.C. § 1802. There must be no "substantial likelihood" that the
intercepted communications include those to which a U.S. person is a party.
§ 1802(a)(1)(B).
Such electronic surveillance must be certified by the Attorney General and
then noticed to the Senate and House intelligence committees. § 1802(a)(2).
A copy of the certification must be filed with the FISC, where it remains
sealed unless (a) an application for a warrant with respect to it is filed,
or (b) the legality of the surveillance is challenged in another federal
district court under § 1806(f). § 1802(a)(3). Common carriers must assist in
the surveillance and maintain its secrecy. § 1802(a)(4).
In emergencies, the Attorney General may authorize immediate surveillance
but must "as soon as practicable, but not more than twenty-four hours"
later, seek judicial review of the emergency application. § 1805(e).
19. Is FISA really constitutional?
Lower courts have found FISA constitutional. See e.g., United States v.
Duggan, 743 F.2d 59(2d Cir. 1984); United States v. Belfield, 692 F.2d 141
(D.C.Cir 1982); United States v. Nicholson, 955 F.Supp. 588 (E.D. Va. 1997).
In United States v. U.S. District Court, the Supreme Court used a two-part
Fourth Amendment reasonableness test. It is doubtful whether the FISA review
process satisfies the Court's first measure of the reasonableness of
warrantless surveillance -- whether the citizens' interest in privacy and
free expression are better served by a warrant requirement.
The second element --whether a judicially imposed law enforcement warrant
requirement would "unduly frustrate the efforts of Government to protect
itself" -- may be more easily met in the foreign intelligence setting. But
Title III has for more than 30 years required more stringent procedures for
criminal investigatory wiretaps.
also:
http://www.fas.org/irp/nsa/standards.html
http://www.usdoj.gov/oipr/readingroom/oipr_records.htm
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Designed during the Cold War, Echelon primarily intercepts worldwide non-millitary communications including those from governments, organizations, businesses, and individuals. It could intercept practically any communication between, and often within, countries anywhere in the world.
Receiving International Telecommunications Satellites (Intelsats)
An array of receiving stations collect all international communications carried by approximately 20 Intelsat satellites. The Intelsats are used by the telephone companies of most countries. Though they carry primarily civilian traffic, they also carry diplomatic and governmental communications. These Intelsats are positioned in stationary orbit around the equator and carry tens of thousands of simultaneous phone calls, faxes, and e-mails.
Echelon's Intelsat receiving stations include:
* Morwenstow, England - Atlantic and Indian Oceans satellites transmitting to Europe, Africa and western Asia
* Sugar Grove, near Washington, D.C. - Atlantic satellites beamed to North and South America
* Yakima Firing Center, near Seattle, Washington - Pacific and Far East satellites
* Waihopai, New Zealand - Pacific and Indian Ocean satellites covering Asia and the South Pacific
* Geraldton, Australia - Pacific and Indian Ocean satellites covering Asia and the South Pacific
* Ascension Island - Atlantic satellites covering the southern hemisphere
Receiving Non-Intelsat Satellites
Numerous satellites carry domestic communications. These regional communications are monitored by the above stations as well as the following additional monitoring stations.
* Menwith Hill, England
* Shoal Bay, Australia - targets Indonesian satellites
* Leitrim, Canada - targets Latin American satellites
* Bad Aibling, Germany
* Misawa, Japan
Among other things, biological and chemical research. Then tested in a controlled environment so that if a worst case scenario , i.e. test goes awry and any is released into lab air system, it can be locked down and "cleaned".
Good suggestion. I'll just copy source code to Nvu , a free HTML editor.
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