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Clinton NSA Eavesdropped on U.S. Calls
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Posted on 12/18/2005 7:21:35 PM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly

Clinton NSA Eavesdropped on U.S. Calls

During the 1990's under President Clinton, the National Security Agency monitored millions of private phone calls placed by U.S. citizens and citizens of other countries under a super secret program code-named Echelon.

On Friday, the New York Times suggested that the Bush administration has instituted "a major shift in American intelligence-gathering practices" when it "secretly authorized the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans and others inside the United States to search for evidence of terrorist activity without [obtaining] court-approved warrants."

But in fact, the NSA had been monitoring private telephone conversations on a much larger scale throughout the 1990s - all of it done without a court order, let alone a catalyst like the 9/11 attacks.

In February 2000, for instance, CBS "60 Minutes" correspondent Steve Kroft introduced a report on the Clinton-era spy program by noting:

"If you made a phone call today or sent an e-mail to a friend, there's a good chance what you said or wrote was captured and screened by the country's largest intelligence agency. The top-secret Global Surveillance Network is called Echelon, and it's run by the National Security Agency."

NSA computers, said Kroft, "capture virtually every electronic conversation around the world."

Echelon expert Mike Frost, who spent 20 years as a spy for the Canadian equivalent of the National Security Agency, told "60 Minutes" that the agency was monitoring "everything from data transfers to cell phones to portable phones to baby monitors to ATMs."

Mr. Frost detailed activities at one unidentified NSA installation, telling "60 Minutes" that agency operators "can listen in to just about anything" - while Echelon computers screen phone calls for key words that might indicate a terrorist threat.

The "60 Minutes" report also spotlighted Echelon critic, then-Rep. Bob Barr, who complained that the project as it was being implemented under Clinton "engages in the interception of literally millions of communications involving United States citizens."

One Echelon operator working in Britain told "60 Minutes" that the NSA had even monitored and tape recorded the conversations of the late Sen. Strom Thurmond.

Still, the Times repeatedly insisted on Friday that the NSA surveillance under Bush had been unprecedented, at one point citing anonymously an alleged former national security official who claimed: "This is really a sea change. It's almost a mainstay of this country that the NSA only does foreign searches."


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; bobbarr; echelon; homelandsecurity; mikefrost; nsa; patriotleak; wiretapping; x42
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To: OldFriend

Don't worry about those 900+ FBI files. Hillary has them securely stored.


101 posted on 12/18/2005 10:44:29 PM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Of course they're in denial over at the DUmmyboard about all this being in existance before the current Bush administration.

Naturally. Reminds me of the exchange in the movie A Few Good Men.

Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled.
Col. Jessep: You want answers?!
Kaffee: I want the truth!
Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth!

Regarding your #100: Backhoe is The Linkmeister.

102 posted on 12/18/2005 11:20:47 PM PST by Eagle9
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

103 posted on 12/18/2005 11:23:33 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: bannie

(That's Clinton dropping from the eaves.)


104 posted on 12/18/2005 11:24:08 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: zook

Triple Ping


105 posted on 12/19/2005 12:58:14 AM PST by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: hdstmf
I believe that the klinton's continue to receive classified information and files from their friends in the FBI.

Ditto the CIA and Justice.

Clearly State is part of the klinton cabal.

106 posted on 12/19/2005 4:48:46 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: zook

Then either Harry Reid is a dummy, or he's just lying.... or, of course, it's entirely likely to be a combination of both.


107 posted on 12/19/2005 6:45:36 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Actually, I intended that to be a joke, a typical Rat response. He may yet say it, however.


108 posted on 12/19/2005 6:48:34 AM PST by zook
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

NSA has a mission. If you have nothing to hide- no worries.


109 posted on 12/19/2005 6:54:35 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

Right - that's what they all say about things like cell phones not being tracked, I-Passes used for tollway payments (the records of which have already been subpeonaed for divorce court cases), RFIDs, etc. etc. etc.


110 posted on 12/19/2005 7:01:08 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
super secret program code-named Echelon.

Super secret? A few years ago on FR posters were discussing ESCHELON and trying their best to use keywords that would trip the wires on the program.

111 posted on 12/19/2005 7:05:39 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye
See my post above.
112 posted on 12/19/2005 7:12:46 AM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

BTTT


113 posted on 12/19/2005 7:17:25 AM PST by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Well good...here's your link to Klinton's Echelon
114 posted on 12/19/2005 7:18:31 AM PST by harpu
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly
I just made a similar comment...
"I don't remember this angst, except perhaps once, with BC's numerous EOs that were issued in his administration.
(just using it as an illustration, not dredging up the old...all past POTUS have EOs)"

115 posted on 12/19/2005 7:38:49 AM PST by philman_36
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To: cynicom
If Bill Clinton were president, these same people that adore Bush would be screeching their lungs out.

Based on your comment this should be of interest to you.

116 posted on 12/19/2005 7:41:43 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

self-o ping-o


117 posted on 12/19/2005 9:41:35 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

Take your ACLU VIEWS OUT OF HERE.


118 posted on 01/07/2006 2:46:58 PM PST by Lumper20
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