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Australians are an obedient people - but for how long?
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | December 19, 2005 | David Marr

Posted on 12/18/2005 11:16:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

SYDNEY is suddenly a city of police and rumours. Only the other day we were basking in fresh accolades for a city rated among the most liveable in the world. And now the world is watching with us these unimaginable scenes of roadblocks, searches, arrests and massed police patrolling half-deserted beaches.

Time and the courts will decide how effective the police were this weekend. For now, these past few days will be remembered as the first time in the history of this city that a trip to the beach meant passing a cordon of fully armed police.

Rumours were everywhere - rumours of deaths and bombings, rumours of a convoy on the way from Melbourne, rumours that this or that beach will be the next to be locked down. For days the city has been feeding on rumours and ugly text messages. Anything seems possible - any trouble and any police retaliation.

And we took it so calmly. For months there has been a controversy over the tough new stop-and-search powers in John Howard's latest package of anti-terrorism legislation. They are nothing to this. Yesterday Sydney showed extraordinary patience in the face of customary rights overturned.

Boots were opened, cars searched, people questioned, mobile phones inspected, with hardly a protest across the city. What we saw in operation was something not often acknowledged by Australians: we are an obedient people. We don't like politicians much, but we trust governments and the police. We do what they say.

Jane, from Coogee, was surprised to find three police on her bus asking to inspect mobile phones. Each took a phone at random and scrolled through messages for five or ten minutes. Everyone obeyed. "The people were perfectly friendly about it," she said. "I thought it was a bit weird and a breach of privacy. But I didn't say anything. Nobody did."

At least for now, Sydney has given the police the benefit of the doubt. But the question left hanging is how far the city's obedience can be pushed.

The Premier, Morris Iemma, is talking about a "long, hard fight" ahead, perhaps all summer, to make the streets "safe for all peace-loving citizens".

So how long are we going to put up with police cordons between us and the surf? Jane was startled by the police on her bus, but she's already getting used to it. "It could go on."

TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
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You do what you need to do to protect the innocent.

***WASHINGTON (AP) - Facing angry criticism and challenges to his authority in Congress, President Bush on Saturday unapologetically defended his administration's right to conduct secret post-Sept. 11 spying in the United States as "critical to saving American lives.".......*** Source

1 posted on 12/18/2005 11:16:15 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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City faces Christmas lock-down

***SYDNEY faces a summer lockdown as beaches, the city centre and suburbs are flooded with police armed with new powers in their fight against continuing threats of racial violence.

Behind a facade of peaceful but almost deserted beaches at the weekend, a disturbing picture of determined violence emerged. Alleged white supremacists, and isolated groups and individuals of various ethnic backgrounds, were arrested as police seized weapons, cars, phones and bomb-making materials

The Police Commissioner, Ken Moroney, told the Herald last night he was prepared to maintain the unprecedented level of police activity over Christmas and the new year, including warning the public off beaches if intelligence reports continued to point to credible threats.

He defended the weekend show of force, which included 2000 officers and roadblocks at beaches including Bondi, Coogee, Maroubra, Brighton-le-Sands and Cronulla, as well as in Wollongong and Newcastle.

"We acted appropriately this weekend and we will continue to sustain this focus," Mr Moroney said. "These were extraordinary measures for an extraordinary time. The intelligence is coming from a variety of sources, including the criminal community - I'll be that blunt - and it will form the basis of our operational tactics."

By last night 59 people had been arrested since Friday night and almost 200 charges laid. Police seized 22 mobile phones, 13 cars and scores of weapons including swords, knives, iron bars, baseball bats and axes. In Wollongong five cars and a replica pistol were confiscated.

Police said five white supremacists were arrested at Ramsgate Beach, near Brighton, carrying a 25-litre drum of petrol and equipment to make Molotov cocktails, as well as military helmets, police scanners and portable radios. Police roadblocks made Brighton virtually off-limits to all except residents last night.

Buses in the eastern suburbs were stopped and searched during the afternoon after two men apparently of Middle Eastern background were taken from a Bondi-bound bus carrying two 600-millilitre bottles of petrol. The driver had smelt petrol and notified police.

The men, one of whom is from Melbourne, had been at a "harmony" rally at Belmore Park in the city earlier in the day and were carrying what police described as "anti-government literature" from the gathering.

The Premier, Morris Iemma, told residents: "This is not to be a one-day fight. We are in for a long, hard fight but the message is: the hoons and the hooligans will not win. The police will keep the pressure on throughout the summer."

He said a decision on whether the traditional Bondi Beach Christmas party would be allowed to proceed would be made during the week and he refused to say when the restrictions on the public freely attending the beach on weekends might be lifted.

About 10.30pm police began dismantling roadblocks around Brighton. But a heavy police presence remained, as groups of youths stood around on corners.

Mr Iemma deflected calls for compensation for business owners, saying it was unlikely his Government would offer cash compensation to individual businesses, because it would be extremely difficult to administer.

But he would consider ways in which affected areas could be helped: "In coming days I will get together with the [local government] officials and the business people to see what assistance the Government can provide for the area."

Tourism groups are worried that the racial conflict will scare off overseas visitors and take a toll on the country's $73 billion tourism industry. Christopher Brown, from the Tourism and Transport Taskforce, said: "Who wants to be holidaying in the middle of a brawl?"

On show: weapons of hate

THE weapons at times resembled a medieval armoury of swords and daggers, engraved and entwined with dragons and skulls. Others were more prosaic: golf clubs, baseball bats. Others more terrifying: a table leg embedded with nails, samurai swords, knives and iron bars.
Then there were snooker balls crudely fashioned into a weapon, a ball at either end of a rope.

Beachside police stations displayed the collections of confiscated weapons yesterday.

The police force is throwing almost a fifth of its resources into controlling Sydney's outburst of violence, but it is struggling to find a pattern. The diversity of weapons and backgrounds of the 59 men arrested over the weekend highlights the problem.

Three of five Middle Eastern men arrested at Brighton-le-Sands yesterday were from Canberra and allegedly carrying phones with messages inciting violence, including that "all our soldiers are ready to attack".

Police described another five men arrested at nearby Ramsgate as "white supremacists" who had petrol intended for Molotov cocktails, , commando-style utility belts, helmets, dust masks, police scanners and portable radios. "The picture is very confusing," an officer said. "It changes by the hour."***

2 posted on 12/18/2005 11:18:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's simple enough. We just cannot tolerate what Islam brings to the table.

3 posted on 12/18/2005 11:19:54 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Look at France.

If you don't stop the fires before they spread you have a tougher fight on your hands.

4 posted on 12/18/2005 11:20:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thank God Bush reacted to this in a strong manner. What in heaven's name does the NY Times, et al. think he should have done? Have they really forgotten Sept. 11th and what it felt like that day and the days afterward? And they are right there in NYC! I was terrified leaving the house with my kid for weeks after, here in jihad central, Hudson Co. NJ, where the first WTC bomber lived ACROSS THE STREET from me. LITERALLY! Where the cook at the VIP Diner in Jersey City, where we'd had my kid's first Communion Breakfast years ago, was taken out in handcuffs. Thank God they did this, and God bless for Bush for doing it and defending it. And may the appeasing, America-hating slime at the NY Times and on the left in general GO TO HELL!

5 posted on 12/18/2005 11:22:13 AM PST by jocon307 (Still mourning the loss of CBS FM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We need to be looking in our own backyard. The immigration under Clinton and Bush has exploded, America has enemies in its midst

6 posted on 12/18/2005 11:22:15 AM PST by piceapungens
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To: jocon307
When Clinton didn't act:

7 posted on 12/18/2005 11:24:17 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How odd! The word "Muslim" is not mentioned anywhere in this article. If one didn't know better, one would thing white Australians had resorted to violence for no reason at all.

This article by a retired Australian cop should help put current events in Australia in perspective for you.

8 posted on 12/18/2005 11:25:45 AM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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We need to be looking in our own backyard.

This is true but we need to be smart and safe. Remember Japanese internment camps? We don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water.

9 posted on 12/18/2005 11:26:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: jocon307

The people running the NYTs are hardcore collectivists. They are interested in presenting only their socialist, pro homosexual, pro Muslim point of view. More and more, they are the enemy.

10 posted on 12/18/2005 11:27:53 AM PST by kjo
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It's PC run amuck.

It has to be tempered with reality or it will lead to unchecked violence.
11 posted on 12/18/2005 11:28:34 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Brilliant

The Final Crusade continues to grow.

12 posted on 12/18/2005 11:31:29 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It's a good thing that the radical Islamists have tipped their hand early. If they were smart, they would wait until they had sufficient strength to accomplish their take over.

13 posted on 12/18/2005 11:32:59 AM PST by Voltage
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To: kjo

"The people running the NYTs are hardcore collectivists."

You are too kind. They are not hardcore collectivists, they are limousine liberals. They'd like you and me and our ilk to be living in the gulag, while they repose in their gated communities of outer whitelandia and their doorman buildings in NYC.

14 posted on 12/18/2005 11:34:12 AM PST by jocon307 (Still mourning the loss of CBS FM)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I hope to God they keep fighting the Islamonazis.

15 posted on 12/18/2005 11:34:54 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Japanese internment camps .............see:
In Defense of Internment
by Michelle Malkin ISBN 0895260514

16 posted on 12/18/2005 11:36:16 AM PST by shooter223 (the government should fear the citizens......not the other way around)
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I know. I know.

Then we should have interned Germans and Russians......

17 posted on 12/18/2005 11:37:13 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not one word about Islam or the buccaneering Lebanese immigrants in the entire article.

18 posted on 12/18/2005 11:39:10 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: jocon307

The New York Times is way out of control.

Know What!

The New York Times could care less about what you or I think about their traitorous acts against this great country.

The New York Times are nothing more than low life scum bags.

19 posted on 12/18/2005 11:39:55 AM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Brilliant
Frankly, I think if the Australian leadership continues to be soft on the crime and social abuse from the ROP in society, they are going to see Australians handle it in the street. No one is going to tolerate living with Mussies stalking native girls in their bathing suits and rioting.

No one signed onto the Left's demand that their country, laws and culture be modified to accommodate the abuse of Islam on the population. Race baiting Aussies is not going to make them give up their culture and Nation to the ROP. So the real choice facing the elite: force the ROP to obey the law and fit in or leave or "tolerate" civil war.
20 posted on 12/18/2005 11:40:26 AM PST by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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