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To: Shalom Israel

"Learn to read: I said that such laws are not vaid; I never said they don't exist or aren't enforced"

I tend to be somewhat libertarian myself, but in your case, you are certainly pissing against a strong headwind.

A law is valid as long as it is enforced and allowed to be enforced - what other useful measure can you use?


"I defy you to produce an example of a technical or moral error"

Friend, it's not me you defy, it's The Laws of Physics. Maybe you think they are immoral, too, but they are no less real than the other laws you feel are not valid.

But some people are more libertarian than others......


331 posted on 12/18/2005 2:26:16 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
I tend to be somewhat libertarian myself, but in your case, you are certainly pissing against a strong headwind.

Stating what's moral has nothing to do with blowing against the wind; it's a given that immoral law will continue forever. If one could throw a switch and grant absolute freedom to every human on earth tomorrow, they would instantly begin a frantic search to find themselves new masters. Humans don't even want to be free. Or put differently, I guess I agree with you, but you've understated it: the quest for genuine human freedom is on par with jumping over the moon.

A law is valid as long as it is enforced and allowed to be enforced - what other useful measure can you use?

All comes clear; you're a moral relativist. I'm not; I insist instead that there is an absolute morality, with respect to which a law may be moral or immoral. I submit, even to immoral laws, because I don't want to be the wife of a cellmate named "Bubba"--but that doesn't make them moral.

Friend, it's not me you defy, it's The Laws of Physics. Maybe you think they are immoral, too, but they are no less real than the other laws you feel are not valid.

Give an example of a single law of physics I've gotten wrong. Thanks.

337 posted on 12/18/2005 2:32:59 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Well, I got better...)
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