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China is set to be world’s ‘fourth largest economy’
Gulf Times ^ | December 17, 2005

Posted on 12/18/2005 6:09:15 AM PST by snowsislander

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To: ponder life
Good points. I have no beef with China become a successful capitalist country. China is quickly becoming a CINO country (Communist in name only). And that's good for America and good for those who love freedom, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

However, the United States can be far richer than it is today. Unshackle our corporations from excessive taxation and bureaucracy and we can be far wealther than we even are today.

The United States is also not done expanding. I expect that the provinces of Canada will join the United States at some point along with Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Phillipines, New Zealand and Australia, among others.

This will give us a land mass and natural resources far exceeding any other country in the world with a total population that will make us very comparable with China in that area. In fact, if China continues it's "one child per family" policy, our population will eventually surpass that of China.

21 posted on 12/20/2005 8:45:04 PM PST by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: Cronos

Thanks for sorting me out. Silly fool that I am- I thought the fact that China was a communist country had something to do with it.


22 posted on 12/21/2005 2:04:43 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son

well, you're partially correct, but communism's effect on China's economy is debatable at best -- you must remember that China was on an economic backslide right from the 18th century and this was exacerbated by murderous civil wars from the 1850s right up to 1949 and a genocidal enemy (Japan). Then, China had to recover. Mao's idiocy didn't help things at all. But the question remains -- how can an elephant dance like a 110 lb ballerina (Think Singapore or Hong Kong). Britain had 2 centuries of plundering from it's colonies + the gains of it's industrial revolution. Compare China or India to Britain of the early 1800s and you have the right comparison.


23 posted on 12/21/2005 2:15:30 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: SamAdams76
Phillipines, New Zealand and Australia,

I doubt these would join, but yes, Canadaian provinces along with Mexico, Central America and PR will join the US.
24 posted on 12/21/2005 2:16:35 AM PST by Cronos (Never forget 9/11. Restore Hagia Sophia!)
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To: Cronos

Right, then after we make contact, we can then say this is the greatest solar system...in the Universe...


25 posted on 12/21/2005 12:44:18 PM PST by nikos1121
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To: SamAdams76
However, the United States can be far richer than it is today. Unshackle our corporations from excessive taxation and bureaucracy and we can be far wealthier than we even are today.

I believe the US will be much better off in the future than today. But I believe it will be a result of ever increasing ethical conduct placed on the corporations. Much of the bureaucracy shouldered by the corporations is a result of a tug of war between those who want greater corporate latitude and those who want greater government regulation. That won't go away and will always be there. The best thing to hope for is that society in the future is ethical enough to balance the two so that corporations are free to expand while at the same time product safety is sufficiently addressed.

The United States is also not done expanding. I expect that the provinces of Canada will join the United States at some point along with Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Philippines, New Zealand and Australia, among others..

Puerto Rico is already part of the United States. I can't really say yay or nay as to weather the other countries will join the US but I'm not opposed to it. I think making all of North America and all of South America into one big country wouldn't be a bad idea either. But I doubt any of those countries will go for it.

This will give us a land mass and natural resources far exceeding any other country in the world with a total population that will make us very comparable with China in that area. In fact, if China continues it's "one child per family" policy, our population will eventually surpass that of China.

If those other countries join the US, the population of the US could exceed that of China by the end of the century, given the higher birthrates of all those countries mentioned and China’s current lower birthrate. Though, I doubt they will join, I don’t see any trends in that direction. But even if they don’t join, the US population is expected to grow considerably during the 21st century. Optimistic projections put the US population at well over 500 million by 2050. And with lower birthrates in Europe (some countries will actually shrink), the US population is expected to have as many people as the entire 25 nation European Union by 2050. So, even if the US doesn’t surpass China or India in population during the 21st century, it’s position as the third largest country, in terms of population, is secure.

26 posted on 12/22/2005 11:37:45 AM PST by ponder life
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"Great point. I'll add the free city-states of Hong Kong prior to Britain's profound mistake, and Singapore, or even the more hierarchical regime of Taiwan"

You do realize that Singapore is still a dictatorship and that Taiwan's strongest economic growth periods are when it was a dictatorship under the KMT??? :)

People often mistake growth in economy with freedom and democracy, it isn't necessarily so. What IS necessary, is low government intervention (i.e. less regulatory laws) AND strong rule of law (court system, less corruption).

Oh yeah, prior to 1990's, Hong Kong isn't a democracy either. It's a colony, a subject of the British empire.


27 posted on 12/22/2005 11:51:11 AM PST by pganini
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