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To: samtheman
Why are physicists taking the idea of multiple universes seriously now? ... Without any explanation of nature's fine-tunings we will be hard pressed to answer the ID critics.

Take out all the imaginary scientism between the two quotes and there you go! Not so hard after all.

By the way, the argument that we find the universe improbably friendly to life because we are alive in this universe is neither an explanation nor an argument, but merely begs the question. In these imaginary other universes, does conscious life exist in gasseous form in starless space? How about flying monkeys? In an infinite number of universes, surely there is one with flying monkeys! Cthulu? Wise and patriotic Democracts?
23 posted on 12/18/2005 6:33:00 AM PST by SalukiLawyer
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To: SalukiLawyer
In an infinite number of universes, surely there is one with flying monkeys!
I can't get my head around infinity. I prefer to speculate (and all of this is in the realm of speculation) on the possibility of a large but finite number of other bubbles and also prefer to think of us and our monkeys (flying or otherwise) as unique in all the cosmos. But that's just my particular fancy and means nothing.

What is interesting is that people who "know better" (that is, those who can do the math) are speculating along the lines of this article.

24 posted on 12/18/2005 6:53:48 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SalukiLawyer
the argument that we find the universe improbably friendly to life because we are alive in this universe is neither an explanation nor an argument, but merely begs the question.
You are right. It's not an argument, or an explanation. It is a speculation. And to my mind, an interesting one. Frankly, more interesting than the supposition that a book written by the scholary members of a nomadic desert tribe a few thousand years ago actually specifies the dynamics of the universe.

To my mind (and I'm not trying to win an argument, merely justify my own speculations), it makes more sense to toy with ideas of alternate big-bangs (in which some get the physical constants "right for life" and others don't), than to believe that a book written at the dawn of mankinds erudition correctly lists the technical specifications of our cosmos.

26 posted on 12/18/2005 7:00:17 AM PST by samtheman
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To: SalukiLawyer
Einsteins insertion of the cosmological constant to avoid a creation event is almost exactly analagous to the multiverse insertion to expalin the anthropic prinicple.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Flying monkeys and exploding grapefruits = a static multiverse

68 posted on 12/19/2005 6:07:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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