[Accygirl]

I'm shocked that a Holocaust survivor would be supportive of restrictive immigration policies, because it was those restrictive immigration policies that led the U.S. to turn away refugees and led to their deaths in concentration camps.

As for your other points, A. states like Nebraska, Iowa, the Dakotas, etc. are trying to encourage people to move to their states, because all the natives are leaving. B. The U.S. birthrate is declining, and the best way to replace population is through immigration. (The other way, kicking women back into the kitchen, is too disgusting to even fathom). S

Since there's really no population argument, I think that the whole debate comes down to who is coming into the country more than the fact there's immigration. If there was a sudden influx of immigrants from Canada, I don't think that anyone would mind. (In fact, the Canadian border is wide open and easy for terrorists to use, but I don't here anyone griping loudly about that). The whole thing has a racial/ class based element that I think is unfortunate.

[Balding_Eagle]

Suggesting the replacement of legal citizens with criminal invaders won't cut it here at FR. No moral equivalence, not matter how much you spin.

You’re definitely going to earn your Soros money if you intend to keep up that angle.

[investigateworld]

"The whole thing has a racial/ class based element that I think is unfortunate."

Sorry madame, but P.C. buzz words don't cut here.
Try again.

[Borax Queen]

It is unfortunate that Vincente Fox is successfully ethnic cleansing his own country so he and the few other ruling families can continue to control matters. He fortifies his own southern border and always asks us for more money to do so.

[Borax Queen]

It was perfectly ok for Kennedy in the 1960s to socially re-engineer the U.S., and OBLers have fallen right into his hands.

March 1, 2004 (already outdated)

"About 5.3 million undocumented immigrants from Mexico are living in the United States, according to estimates based on the March 2002 Current Population Survey (CPS) as well as census and other government data. Over one in every two Mexican immigrants is undocumented, compared with about one in every six for the remainder of the foreign born.

Mexico represents the largest source of immigration to the United States. Of the 32.5 million foreign born covered in the March 2002 CPS, 9.8 million or 30 percent were from Mexico; the next largest source, the Philippines, accounted for only one-seventh as many at 1.4 million. The rest of Latin America accounted for 7.3 million or 23 percent. Asian immigrants, at 8.5 million, made up 26 percent of the total foreign-born population. There were 5.4 million foreign born from Europe and Canada, accounting for 17 percent of all immigrants.

Mexican immigrants account for about one-fifth of the legal immigrants living in the United States. This large percentage is actually a legacy of the legalization programs of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (IRCA), under which about two million formerly undocumented Mexicans acquired legal status. In terms of the annual inflow of legal immigrants, about one in seven are Mexican. This share is substantially larger than the legal flow from any other country.

Mexico is also the single largest source of undocumented immigrants."

http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?ID=208

[nicmarlo]

Since there's really no population argument, I think that the whole debate comes down to who is coming into the country more than the fact there's immigration.

Actually, it comes down to our Country having immigration laws and ratios; these were put into place because, as you may not be aware, the United States does not have a money tree growing in its back yard, nor does it have unlimited resources and land mass.

[Itzlzha]

Since there's really no population argument, I think that the whole debate comes down to who is coming into the country more than the fact there's immigration. If there was a sudden influx of immigrants from Canada, I don't think that anyone would mind. (In fact, the Canadian border is wide open and easy for terrorists to use, but I don't here anyone griping loudly about that). The whole thing has a racial/ class based element that I think is unfortunate.

OK...for one, I want all the borders sealed! Canada as well, and I am EXTREMELY concerned about Canada, as the Martin corruption just LOVES Islamazis, and they are sneaking in from our North where they were welcomed!

Secondly, why do all you OBL-ers have a mental block with the word "ILLEGAL" when it's paired with immigrant?

I don't care WHERE you are from...if you come here ilegally, you are gone. There is no racial component except from the OBL crowd...need proof? How about these words...note the bold passages...

"Year 2000 GOP's Bush Calls for Increasing Legal Immigration Levels

George W. Bush endorses the "demographic revolution" that Bill Clinton said he hoped would end "European culture" in America, the GOP presidential hopeful went on to call for a lifting of the legal limits on immigration.

In an interview ignored by the liberal press, as well as his GOP rivals, Bush told the editorial board of the Cedar Rapids Gazette, that "we ought to increase legal immigration." ......

Family values don't stop at the Rio Grande River," he said. "If you're a mother and dad, and you got kids to feed, and you're making 50 cents and you see someone in Iowa making $50, and you care about those kids, you're coming."

Bush suggested that because Americans aren't skilled enough to handle the demands of an economy driven by high-tech industries, "we ought to increase legal immigration for our country's advantage. The high-tech world that we are now dominate is dependent on educated folks, but we're short of workers. It is to our advantage to encourage high-powered, smart people to come into this country," he said.

So here we have proof in his own words, that Mexico is preferred over "European Culture".

Now who's racist?

As far as class goes...note the wage comment by Bush...those cheap laborers really help depress American wages, and that is good for business, but not for lower class Americans who cannot compete in the markets being manipulated by Illegal Immigrants and their accomplices in Gub'Mint and Business!

THAT is a class issue.

Your side loses