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Tancredo wins round 1 to build Mexico fence
WorldNetDaily ^ | December 17, 2005 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 12/17/2005 2:21:08 PM PST by arnoldpalmerfan

INVASION USA Tancredo wins round 1 to build Mexico fence House passes new border controls, with eye on deportations next year

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: December 17, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Rep. Tom Tancredo WASHINGTON – It was a victory the once-obscure Colorado congressman savored yesterday.

When the House of Representatives passed a tough new border control bill last night, Republican Rep. Tom Tancredo was all smiles.

He led an often-lonely and sometimes seemingly hopeless fight not only against Democratic opponents but against his own party and his own president.

"Today, the House of Representatives passed a bill which strengthens our border security and begins to enforce immigration laws throughout the country," he said. "Over the last two days, reformers in the House have accomplished much: we have approved a security fence along our southern border, we have taken steps to end 'catch and release' nationwide, we have slashed funds to localities that shield illegal aliens, and we have gone after employers who attract illegal aliens to the U.S."

The House voted 239-182 to stem the tide of illegal immigration by taking steps to tighten border controls and stop unlawful immigrants from getting jobs. But lawmakers left for next year the tougher issue of what to do with between 11 million and 20 million illegal aliens already in the country.

The House legislation, billed as a border protection, anti-terrorism and illegal immigration control act, includes enlisting military and local law enforcement help in stopping illegal entrants and requiring employers to verify the legal status of their workers. It authorizes the building of a fence along parts of the U.S.-Mexico border.

One measure that Republican leaders wouldn't allow a vote on was a volatile proposal to deny citizenship to babies born in this country to illegal immigrants.

The issue next moves to the Senate, where Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., says he will bring up immigration legislation in February that will provide a framework for guest worker ideas that some see as amnesty for lawbreakers.

President Bush has proposed that illegal aliens be allowed to get three-year work visas. They could extend those for an additional three years, but would then have to return to their home countries for a year to apply for a new work permit.

The House bill would beef up border security with the help of local law enforcement and military technology, impose tougher penalties for smuggling and re-entry, and end the "catch and release" policy for illegal non-Mexicans. It makes drunken driving convictions a deportable offense.

The bill makes unlawful presence in the United States, currently a civil offense, a felony. An amendment to reduce the crime from a felony to a misdemeanor was defeated, with many Democrats voting against the proposal because they did not want to make it a criminal offense at all.

The House bill would also require all employers in the country to submit Social Security numbers and other information to a national database to verify the legal status of workers.

"Some said that we couldn't do it, that businesses are too addicted to illegal labor, that the problem is too complex for Congress to tackle," said Tancredo, the chairman of the 92-member House Immigration Reform Caucus. "When it became clear that the American people's demand for reform was too loud to ignore, our political foes changed their arguments and hid their intentions behind new language. Suddenly, amnesty was a 'path to citizenship,' an 'earned legalization,' or 'comprehensive reform.' We passed comprehensive reform today: we penalized illegal alien employers and secured our borders."

Tancredo added: "The fact that Congress was forced to discuss immigration reform in itself is a victory for my allies. Such a victory has been years in the making, and credit is due to the millions of Americans who attended town halls, wrote letters to the editor, called talk radio shows, and even defended the border on their own. I thank them whole-heartedly for their efforts, and I am deeply honored by the support they have shown me and my congressional allies."

Just a year ago, Tancredo said he could count his allies in the House on two hands. But Republican lawmakers began to see just how critical the issue was to voters in their districts. A recent poll showed border security second only to the war in Iraq as a motivating issue for voters.

"Today we savor our victory, but tomorrow we must begin the fight to ensure our victory becomes reality," he said. "I am well aware that this is a three-round fight, and while this has been a good round, we haven't delivered the knockout punch. The open borders lobby and its cronies in the Senate will undoubtedly attempt to attach an amnesty to our reform bill. The American people know what the Senate's plan is, and they will bring political punishment to any official that favors it. No backdoor amnesty -- no matter what you call it -- will become law. Americans demand real reform now and, thankfully, they may get it."


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; amnesty; antiterrorism; billfrist; bordercontrolbill; borderfence; borderprotection; borders; bordersecurity; deportableoffense; guestworker; illegalaliens; illegalimmigrants; illegalimmigration; immigrationlaws; lawbreakers; openborderslobby; presidentbush; republican; securityfence; southernborder; tomtancredo; unlawfulimmigrants; workpermits; workvisas
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
Heard Sensenbrenner removed the 'felony' penalty from his bill

Because..."it would just take too many resources to prosecute them...hiring attorneys for them...jail space...etc etc etc etc"...it was also stated that it would be much easier to deport them if they just kept the illegal invasion of America [in time of war] a "misdemeanor"....
21 posted on 12/17/2005 3:39:33 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

Frankly, I think that Tom Tancredo is a loon. While protecting our border is fine (I'm much more concerned about the Canadian border than the Mexican one myself), I don't think it should be done at the expense of all immigration, which is what Tancredo wants. The best way to stop illegal immigration, in my opinion, is to increase the # of people allowed in the U.S. legally.


23 posted on 12/17/2005 4:17:40 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: peyton randolph
Mine fields are cheaper and more effective.

Agreed. This will never happen. But imagine the reactions from Lurch, Al-I, Nancy, Barbara, The Swimmer, The Beast, Stainman, Chuckie, Feingold, Al-II, Jessie, McLaime, Daschle, and Donner, and Dixon, and Prancer and... ?

24 posted on 12/17/2005 4:23:12 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: arnoldpalmerfan

1. Does anyone think this boondoggle will actually work?

2. How many of my tax$$$ are going to go to crooked contractors on this? And the maintenence for years every tiime some Mexican blows a hole in it.

3. I must admit, I used to think Tancredo was a yahoo. But, I was surprised that he's highly articulate and intelligent. But, this is just a "Let's DO Something!" boondoggle. I don't think the USA should be symbolized by barbed wire, even if it was workable.


25 posted on 12/17/2005 4:28:00 PM PST by AlexandriaDuke
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To: Accygirl
This country already has too many people. And look at the riffraff among even the legal immigrants.

Our scenic areas and historical battlefields are being destroyed for tacky housing developments. Traffic jams are growing problem in my area. As Daily pointed out in "Too Many Americans," our quality of life is being damaged by numbers.

We import legally Somalis, for example. I recommend that you read the book or watch the film "Black Hawk Down."

26 posted on 12/17/2005 4:34:35 PM PST by Dante3
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To: AlexandriaDuke

It's a waste of money to put up a fence when the NAFTA program was implemented to equalize the standard of living so they can merge all of the North American countries into one entity.

[b]Can you all say Amero $....?[/b]

Why do you think they have let all of the Mexicans in the US for? Every Friday they pay their Tote UR Note car lot a payment, buy a case of beer and send a Western Union MO to MX. This elevates the standard of living and the NAFTA bill sends all of our jobs to MX as well. They should be either catching or passing us soon.............


27 posted on 12/17/2005 4:44:51 PM PST by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: Dante3
As refugees from war... The U.S. does that for refugees in many other wars as well.

As for the rest of your screed, I find it very disturbing. My ancestors were "riffraff" who came over from Europe during the late 19th century. As were yours, I'm sure. And I think that those immigrants made America a much better place. Therefore, I have a similar view of current immigrants. If someone is willing to work hard and better himself or herself, then I think that he or she should be welcomed into the U.S. The more legal immigration there is, the better..
28 posted on 12/17/2005 6:15:34 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: bkepley
Oh no a two front war, Canada<--US-->Mexico

Well, then, let's just get out of the middle! Do something like an underground railroad to get them quickly from Mexico to Canada. After all, Canada is much more progressive, with government health care for all and cheaper drugs, so it's probably a better place for them to go to.

29 posted on 12/17/2005 6:22:57 PM PST by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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To: Brilliant

Congrats to Tancredo. Too bad we don't have more like him.""

AMEN


30 posted on 12/17/2005 6:32:13 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Accygirl; Dante3
While protecting our border is fine... The best way to stop illegal immigration, in my opinion, is to increase the # of people allowed in the U.S. legally.

"Fine"? "Fine"? Accygirl - it sounds like you don't know too much about the subject but are spouting rehearsed lines.

Just for starters, we already legally allow in more than any other country and our cities and towns are bursting at the seams without adequate infrastructure.

As usual with you open border types, you haven't posted a state flag, so it's hard to tell if you have any idea of the diseases being brought to the Southwest United States. Thanks to Kennedy, Clinton, now Bush, and globalist people like you, not only have we lost most of our emergency rooms, we are dealing with dengue fever, leprosy, tb, and whooping cough outbreaks, among other things.

HOSPITAL TO THE WORLD WELCOMES ILLEGALS & CONTAGIOUS DISEASES

31 posted on 12/17/2005 7:00:38 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

- Note the difference between legal and illegal immigration. Frankly, I have nothing against people from other countries who want to immigrate and work hard in the U.S. My ancestors were just those types of people, and I'm 100% sure that yours were as well.

- My main concerns with the border situation is A. terrorism and B. drug/ human trafficking. I have nothing against hardworking Mexicans who come to the U.S. to find jobs; in my opinion, they make this country a better place.


32 posted on 12/17/2005 8:03:16 PM PST by Accygirl
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To: Accygirl
I never said all immigrants were/are riffraff. Many in recent years, however, are out for welfare, commit crimes, refuse to learn the language, have an enormous sense of entitlement, etc.

There are many good people among immigrants, and millions of good people would want to migrate to this country. The problems is numbers. This country already has too many people.

If this keeps up we'll end up a 3rd World country.

33 posted on 12/17/2005 8:08:12 PM PST by Dante3
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To: Accygirl

Let's hear some numbers. How many illegal aliens would you allow into the country? How many legal immigrants should be allowed yearly?


34 posted on 12/17/2005 8:35:56 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: arnoldpalmerfan
The issue next moves to the Senate...

No need to read any further...

35 posted on 12/17/2005 8:41:46 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: Accygirl
My ancestors were just those types of people, and I'm 100% sure that yours were as well.

You're right, but my parents had to wait several years to be admitted into the United States, and they were escaping the horrors of Stalin and Hitler, not just seeking economic opportunity. In those days, there were quotas and we only absorbed what we could absorb. People had to be healthy to be admitted, have jobs (those old enough), sponsors, speak English well, know the Constitution, and so on. I have many relatives who weren't admitted because they (falsely) tested positive for TB.

Now, after the 1960s, almost anyone can come legally from almost any country. How many is too many? We already import more than our share, legally, plus we have an estimated 20 - 35 million here illegally. After the last five years of the rampant illegal alien invasion, yes, we may need to reassess the entire situation, legal and illegal. I know we don't have the roads, hospitals, or schools in AZ to support any more of this without becoming 3rd world.

36 posted on 12/18/2005 5:24:56 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: WatchingInAmazement; Accygirl
Immigrants and their children now account for perhaps one-half of United States population growth, and that proportion is certain to continue climbing into the 21st century. There are perhaps as many as 40 million more people in the U.S. today than there would have been if the annual average number of new immigrants under the old system had remained undisturbed, according to demographer Leon Bouvier. The immigration flows of the last 30 years have not only been larger but also less well-educated, since skills-based immigration accounts for only about 10 percent of the total flow. Family "reunification" and refugee and amnesty flows, acknowledged to bring people of lower educational attainment, account for the rest."

http://www.cis.org/articles/1995/olg12-28-95.html

I would say we aren't exactly getting the cream of the crop anymore.

37 posted on 12/18/2005 6:17:29 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Dante3

Forgot to ping you to post 37.


38 posted on 12/18/2005 6:20:44 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen
Those poor Irish farmers that came over during the 1840s potato famine must have been the real cream of the crop, with college degrees from Trinity University as an added bonus... snark off.

Frankly, most of the immigrants who have come to the U.S. are looking for economic opportunity. After all, if things are going well in their homeland, then they wouldn't have wanted to leave.
39 posted on 12/18/2005 8:32:33 AM PST by Accygirl
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To: Borax Queen
Those poor Irish farmers that came over during the 1840s potato famine must have been the real cream of the crop, with college degrees from Trinity University as an added bonus... snark off.

Frankly, most of the immigrants who have come to the U.S. are looking for economic opportunity. After all, if things are going well in their homeland, then they wouldn't have wanted to leave.
40 posted on 12/18/2005 8:32:50 AM PST by Accygirl
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