[SierraWasp]

Well, Mrs. Wasp and I have been two of the "droves" since the 2002 November election!!!

And calcowgirl, before we rejoin the Party, we figure we're on the outside looking in anyways, so what's the difference? We can still foment and torment from out here just as good as if we were card carrying ignored members, right? Right!!! (rhetorical questions once again)(grin)

[forester]

France's public debt is spiralling out of control, according to a report commissioned by the French government... The debt stands at €1,117 billion, representing 66 per cent of France's GDP ... The staggering figure encompasses the debt accumulated by the state and local authorities, as well as social and health insurance bodies, over the past few decades. However, it does not include the upcoming time bomb of civil servants' pensions.

The above quote is from another FR article currently posted. I notice that if I replace the word France with California, and "a platform favoring incremental change" with "socialism slow is A-OK with us urban RINO's" the article describes California pretty well.