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1 posted on 12/16/2005 7:55:05 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/16/2005 7:56:00 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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That's what I've been told, that almost all babies are born with some kind of slight infection or abnormality.

Perfection is a stupid concept.

Anyone expecting perfection in this life is going to be disappointed.

3 posted on 12/16/2005 8:08:35 PM PST by japaneseghost (()
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From the movie Gattaca:

Even as the baby is put into Maria's arms, page after page of data begins to appear on a monitor, pulsing warning signals throughout the spreadsheets.

Two assisting NURSES exchange a look. Antonio senses something amiss.

ANTONIO

What's wrong?

JEROME (VO)

Of course, there was nothing wrong with me. Not so long ago I would have been considered a perfectly healthy, normal baby. Ten fingers, ten toes. That was all that used to matter. But now my immediate well-being was not the sole concern.

Antonio turns his attention from his baby to the data appearing on the monitor. We see individual items highlighted amongst the data - "NERVE CONDITION - PROBABILITY 60%", "MANIC DEPRESSION - 42%", "OBESITY - 66%", "ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER - 89%"--

5 posted on 12/16/2005 8:13:04 PM PST by DrewsDad
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"A healthy fetus dies for every 200 amniocenteses done"

Are couples warned about this?


6 posted on 12/16/2005 8:13:39 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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The palliative care specialist from Wichita, Kansas, was surprised to learn that the average Italian woman has 12 sonograms during her pregnancy.

"It indicates our current fear of the non-perfect child," Brungardt said, "for which Dr. Bellieni has coined the term 'handiphobia' -- fear of the handicapped, the risks and realities of in vitro fertilization, embryo adoption, and neonatal/infant euthanasia."


That's an awfully big leap in assumptions there. There's also the possibility that doctors may be in the habit of doing an ultrasound for every little thing that comes up. First time mothers can be quite anxious. 12 ultrasounds doesn't indicate much of anything, other than maybe the mothers actually LIKE to see their babies, and if the state is paying for it... why not?
11 posted on 12/16/2005 8:33:49 PM PST by conservatrice
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Martin Luther King had it nailed in the Birmingham Jail.... quoting Martin Buber, he says that the substitution of an I-thou relationship with an I-it relationship is the root of all oppression.

Read the Letter from the Birmingham Jail, substitute "abortion" for "segregation," and know what must be done.

http://www.nobelprizes.com/nobel/peace/MLK-jail.html


16 posted on 12/17/2005 5:00:16 AM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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bump


18 posted on 12/17/2005 5:02:58 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping List Freepmail me if you want on or off this ping list.)
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24 posted on 12/17/2005 7:22:35 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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