Posted on 12/16/2005 7:22:17 PM PST by Dundee
Police taped terror plot to kill Howard
TWO Melbourne terror suspects discussed killing John Howard and his family, launching a large-scale attack at a football game and causing carnage at a train station as part of a religious war in Australia.
In a series of chilling conversations caught on police listening devices and revealed yesterday, self-styled Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 46, and 20-year-old Abdulla Merhi discussed the terror plot as payback for the deaths of Muslims.
"For example, if John Howard kills innocent Muslim families do we ... do we have to kill him and his family ... (and) his people, like at the football?" asked Mr Merhi. Mr Benbrika allegedly replied: "If they kill our kids, we kill little kids."
"We send a message back to them," Mr Merhi allegedly said.
"That's it, an eye for an eye," Mr Benbrika replied.
The conversations, recorded on September 24, were played to the Melbourne Magistrates Court during the unsuccessful bail applications of two of the accused men who were charged after last month's early-morning anti-terror raids in Melbourne.
The prosecution alleged that Mr Merhi went to see Mr Benbrika to seek the cleric's advice on whether it was best to "bring jihad" here or overseas.
According to the police surveillance transcripts, Mr Benbrika told Mr Merhi to be patient and that rather than working alone, he should work together with the group.
"You shouldn't just kill one or two or three," Mr Benbrika allegedly said, before advising him to consider doing something "close to the (train) station".
"Do a big thing," Mr Benbrika said. "Like Spain," Mr Merhi added, in an apparent reference to the terrorist attacks in Madrid in March last year, in which 191 people were killed when 10 bombs exploded on four trains during the morning peak hour.
Mr Merhi was also overheard asking Mr Benbrika - who is believed to be the spiritual leader of the 10-strong alleged terror cell in Melbourne - if committing to jihad would please God.
Mr Benbrika said it would, "because they are killing our brothers and Allah is telling us (to take revenge) according to the verse (the Koran)".
Mr Merhi allegedly replied: "I want in on everything."
Another of the accused terror suspects, 31-year-old Hany Taha, who was also refused bail yesterday, was said to be present during a conversation about "slaughtering police".
The court also heard Mr Benbrika had become infuriated by a rival Melbourne cleric preaching that al-Qa'ida leader Osama bin Laden was "on the wrong path".
According to Crown prosecutor Nick Robinson, Mr Benbrika spat each time the unnamed Muslim teacher's name was mentioned, and suggested his followers attack the man with a baton because it was thought he might have tipped off police about the group's activities. "How can this man who appears knowledgeable in faith say that Osama bin Laden is on the wrong path?" Mr Benbrika said.
The two men's lawyers unsuccessfully argued that their clients should be released on bail because of the expected long delay before their committal hearing, tentatively set down for June.
It was also put that both men had sworn on the Koran that they would adhere to whatever conditions were placed on them, should they be released on bail.
But magistrate Reg Marron said that while the prosecution's case was "not overwhelming", the alleged conversations involving Mr Merhi and Mr Benbrika showed some "disturbingly strong and reasonably assertive positions".
Mr Merhi and Mr Taha are among 10 Melbourne men charged last month with being members of a terrorist organisation. Eight of the 10 men are also charged with financing a terrorist organisation, and Mr Benbrika is charged with directing a terrorist organisation.
Mr Merhi and Mr Taha showed no emotion as they were refused bail. But Mr Merhi's 18-year-old wife Violet, who is due to give birth to the couple's first child in 10 days, left the courtroom in tears.
The 10 men will next appear in court in April.
Is Hamas in Australia?
Another "race war".
I'm left to ponder the timing on this, with all the rumors swirling about Cronulla Beach and this weekend. Sounds like battling factions, one very PC and one pro-Australia, judging by the statements and quotes I've read over the past week or so.
The battle between the left and the right in Australia is every bit as fierce as it is in America. In fact, the only difference most of the time is just the names of those involved.
I was thinking, Howard Dean.
Just some poor, disaffected yoots acting out...
I don't think these guys are doing themselves, or their fellow Muslims, any good.
Probably one of the single most stupid moves they could make, after 9-11. They really shouldn't be messing with the Aussies.
michbadwin
Since Dec 13, 2005
I am pretty sure the leftists will still find a way to defend them
Give 'em the rope.
and has this Mr Benbrika been disposed of yet?
Don't wait , don't give any of them a second chance .....
Benbrika should be tossed to a pair of White Pointers
off the South Coast.
<< Killing John Howard would be the spark that would ignite a massive firestorm in Australia. I wouldn't want to be a Muslim if that happens. >>
Well said. Absolutely spot on.
And Prime Minister Howard, to HIS credit, has been the only Australian politician during the past week to absolutely refuse to buy and/or to endorse the BS that what is happening in Sydney and increasingly elsewhere in Australia may be put down to inherent Australian "racism" and/or to incite what seems to outsiders to be the automatic Australian guilt triggered by such racial slurs and slanders.
No matter how radical it seems, Australia's quite reasonable awakening response to Islamafascism is by no means "racist."
Merry Christmas.
Blessings - Brian
No matter how radical it seems, Australia's quite reasonable awakening response to Islamafascism is by no means "racist."
If there is racism to be had, it is on the part of the Leb Muslims who look down on Aussie women as sluts, and at Aussie men as "Whities" to be attacked if the Lebs don't get their way.
In a series of chilling conversations caught on police listening devices and revealed yesterday, self-styled Muslim cleric Abdul Nacer Benbrika, 46, and 20-year-old Abdulla Merhi discussed the terror plot as payback for the deaths of Muslims.
And this is the kind of intel that the Dems want to block
"You shouldn't just kill one or two or three," Mr Benbrika allegedly said, before advising him to consider doing something "close to the (train) station".
<< .... the ... Muslims who look down on Aussie women as sluts, and at Aussie men as "Whities" to be attacked if the [Islamists] don't get their way. >>
That's true. For the Australian moronic-multicultist elite's favorite thiteenth-century islamisavages, "Aussie," is a perjorative.
But, the behavior of a few drunkards excluded, the Aussie response is to what are ever closer to acts of war against the Australian Culture and the Australian Nation.
And the Aussies could care less what color or creed or so-called "race" are the islamanazi attackers.
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