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| 12/15/2005
Posted on 12/16/2005 6:31:55 PM PST by Jay777
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To: Jay777
Jeeez Louise...is that Zibignew's littel boy I see on the TV?
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posted on
12/16/2005 8:05:04 PM PST
by
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
To: concretebob
Here's a tip..if they worked for klintoon & co. as a National Security Adivsor..
RUN!!!!!
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posted on
12/16/2005 8:07:05 PM PST
by
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
To: Jay777
ACLU shocked by Bush/NSC domestic surveillance?? How can ANYONE be shocked? As soon as Echelon was invented, it was going to be used domestically, anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
To: oceanview
let's see if the administration has learned anything from the Fitzgerald fiasco - or if they just go into the usual "defense" mode on this nonsense.My concern also. The Bush White House must learn to go on the offensive QUICKLY, and not give in to those who seek to destroy them.
Speaking of destroying, they need to politically destroy Sen. Specter-make an example of him.
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posted on
12/16/2005 8:24:24 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
(Peace Begins in the Womb)
To: Jay777
Is it against the law; if only a 'moral law'. . . for the ACLU; the NYT's and every Congressional Librat to lie. . .misrepresent. . .deliberately distort; misconstrue the truth of the matter. . .to determinedly disregard the facts while implying. . .criminal behavior to President Bush?
We are war; not just in Iraq; but right here at home. . .the 'grass roots' is going to have to respond en masse here. . .
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posted on
12/16/2005 8:33:50 PM PST
by
cricket
(No Freedom - No Peace)
To: Jay777
Where in the constitution does it mention electronic evesdropping? I can tell you that anything you say on a radio is fair game.
To: concretebob
Good one. . .
Not as pretty, but this works as well:
American Communist Lawyers Union. . .
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posted on
12/16/2005 8:42:09 PM PST
by
cricket
(No Freedom - No Peace)
To: michbadwin
Hey silly little lib, I worked with the NSA for twenty years doing special ops in the Navy, and yes during the Clinton years we did the exact same thing, only we were looking for drug traffickers. INTERNATIONAL CALLS and EMAILS is the key (and yes that does include electronic transmissions between CONUS and OUTUS, not just OUTUS to OUTUS) The NSA has been doing this since day one, it's their job, it's their charter. ONLY the CIA is prohibited from spying on U.S. citizens, the other 12 agencies have dispensation to investigate within the U.S. as per their charters.
To all the idiot libs:
Catch a clue, bother to learn to read while your at college.
To: concretebob
hmmm, just four years after the bolshevik revolution. Damn, Stalin moved fast or was it Berria that set up the ACLU?
To: moonshine mike
You are an idiot and probably a dim(U)wit. No reposible conservative on FR would adhere to that position.
To: carton253
Well then, according to your post, leaks are perfectly ok and legal.
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posted on
12/16/2005 9:43:32 PM PST
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: MaineVoter2002
No...that's not what I said at all...
I think leaks are counterproductive and nigh on treason...
I just don't think you can stop them unless you literally duct tape peoples mouths shut.
Your idea of killing them is just not practical.
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posted on
12/16/2005 10:49:00 PM PST
by
carton253
(Al-Qa'eda are not the Viet Cong. If you exit, they'll follow. And Americans will die...)
To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
The Bolsheveik Revolution was not the start of communism.
Marx wrote The Communist Manifesto in 1843, or was it 1841?
At any rate, the idea of a socialst utopia had been around a long time before Lenin, or Beria.
Even Cecil Rhoades envisoned a classless, controlled society.
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posted on
12/17/2005 12:41:59 AM PST
by
concretebob
(We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
To: Jay777
I hope they were spying on ACLU's New York headquarters.
Good citizens and patriots have nothing to fear.
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posted on
12/17/2005 4:46:43 AM PST
by
purpleland
(Vigilance and Valor! Socialism is the Opiate of Academia)
To: Jay777
I really don't have much sympathy for anyone in the US that is on a phone call with a terrorist. This seems like such an obvious thing to do it amazes me that anyone - yes even the NYT - would be critical. Sen Feingold says it should "send a chill down the spine of any American". What chills my spine is that Senators seem to have
declared a war on Intelligence gathering. It boggles the logical mind.
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posted on
12/17/2005 6:33:54 AM PST
by
handy
(Forgive me this day, my daily typos...The Truth is not a Smear!)
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To: carton253
Your idea of killing them is just not practical. I think you replied to the wrong person.
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posted on
12/17/2005 8:13:17 AM PST
by
MaineVoter2002
(http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
To: Jay777
To: concretebob
I'm well aware of Marx and Engels historically & of the ideas of the previous 3 centuries of writers whom or envisioned classless societies and/or utopias.
My comment was was partially injest and partially a rhetorical question in that the Soviet communist party probably had some influence (though not the primary driving force) in the founding of the ACLU.
To: Perdogg
I'm not a Constitutional lawyer but I'll wager that a president has the authority in time of war or if there is a threat to national security to order surveillance operations without court orders.
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posted on
12/17/2005 1:01:57 PM PST
by
moose2004
(You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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