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Expert says Midway plane crash was avoidable
Baltimore Sun ^ | 12-15-05 | Jon Hilkevitch

Posted on 12/16/2005 12:18:32 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser

Expert says Midway plane crash was avoidable

By Jon Hilkevitch

Originally published December 15, 2005

CHIAGO // The city of Chicago and Southwest Airlines have "carelessly ignored" for years the risks of short runways and insufficient over-run areas at Midway Airport, an expert on transportation disasters said yesterday in a report on last week's fatal accident.

The crash was avoidable, and the outcome would have been much worse if fuel tanks on the plane ruptured and caught fire, said Gunnar Kuepper, chief of operations at Emergency & Disaster Management Inc., a Los Angeles-based company that advises government agencies and private businesses on emergency-planning strategy.

Advertisement "This was not a surprising risk for anyone in the aviation industry," Kuepper said. "Surely it was a surprise for the people on the street outside Midway Airport who collided with a Boeing 737."

For a fraction of the financial losses that Chicago and Southwest will pay out from the accident, he said, the city and its major airlines at Midway should have invested in safety systems to minimize the damage of a plane skidding off a runway.

The Southwest flight, which originated in Baltimore, landed in a snowstorm at Midway on Dec. 8, slid off the runway, crashed through barriers and hit several cars on Central Avenue. A 6-year-old boy in one car was killed, and 10 other people were injured.

"Midway chose not to address and mitigate the apparent hazard. ... Southwest did not seem to care about reducing the risk either," said Kuepper's 35-page report.

(Excerpt) Read more at baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: airlines; aviation; mdw; southwest; swa
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1 posted on 12/16/2005 12:18:34 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser
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To: Central Scrutiniser
The crash was avoidable, and the outcome would have been much worse if fuel tanks on the plane ruptured and caught fire, said Gunnar Kuepper, chief of operations at Emergency & Disaster Management Inc., a Los Angeles-based company that advises government agencies and private businesses on emergency-planning strategy.

SWA should start researching this guy. It looks like he will be testifying for the plaintiff if this thing goes to trial.

2 posted on 12/16/2005 12:21:28 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
No one is to blame except the pilot. Anything else is just lawyers looking for money.
3 posted on 12/16/2005 12:23:07 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Close the airport, ban flying. That will stop the accidents.


4 posted on 12/16/2005 12:24:20 PM PST by cynicom
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To: USNBandit
SWA should start researching this guy. It looks like he will be testifying for the plaintiff if this thing goes to trial.

My thought, too. He talks like a trial lawyer, and I'm sure that his position as a possibly highly-paid consultant to the plaintiffs in the inevitable lawsuit is purest coincidenct.

5 posted on 12/16/2005 12:24:24 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Did the plane CRASH or SLIDE?


6 posted on 12/16/2005 12:25:43 PM PST by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm not ready to blame the pilot until a report is done by experts with the FAA, rather than journalists that wouldn't know the difference between a 737 and a DC3.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 12:28:46 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Often in a plane crash or other disaster, the cause is a combination of many small factors. Think of the ATC decision to clear the landing, the pilot's error in aiming the plane on the runway, the airport for allowing the runway to deteriorate to such a condition, Southwest for its braking policy, a plane with bad brakes, etc. When the lawsuit comes, it will be difficult to determine who was at fault and at what percentage.


8 posted on 12/16/2005 12:29:36 PM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: jveritas

It crashed.

Into a fence, ILS equipment, a sound fence and into a car.

Not sure whether the hull will be written off, probably not.


9 posted on 12/16/2005 12:30:47 PM PST by Central Scrutiniser (Screw Christmas, Happy Festivus!!!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Anybody know anything about 737 reversers? I have a couple buddies that said they have had the reversers stick on them as well.


10 posted on 12/16/2005 12:31:27 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"I'm not ready to blame the pilot until a report is done by experts with the FAA, rather than journalists that wouldn't know the difference between a 737 and a DC3."

With a bit more runway, it would have been another safe landing in nasty weather, but now it looks like pilot error. Another story here said the plane landed long and with the wind.

11 posted on 12/16/2005 12:38:02 PM PST by GBA (Able danger has been lost in the white noise. The MSM has done its job.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Has there ever been an aircraft "accident" that wasn't avoidable?????? Aren't all accidents avoidable?


12 posted on 12/16/2005 12:40:01 PM PST by SampleMan
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To: GBA

As is usual, cities build right up to airports, effectively choking any safety buffer zones and preventing airport expansion. When an accident happens, it's the airport, airline and pilot's fault, never the ones who built right to the end of the runway.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 12:43:33 PM PST by DakotaRed
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Notice that this article completely ignores the fact that the thrust reversers weren't applied for the first 18 seconds of the landing due to mechanical error and or pilot error.

The plane would have easily have stopped in time if the thrust reversers were applied, and I would have to wonder if the pilot had simply tried taking off again when he was unable to reverse the thrusters, if this also would have been avoided.

The runway is short, but it's been safely used for many flights a day for many years.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 1:05:39 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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>the thrust reversers weren't applied for the first 18 seconds of the landing due to mechanical error and or pilot error

The pilot is strange.
He landed with "auto-brakes"
set to on. That is

against policy
at Southwest. It's fair to ask
what else he did wrong.

15 posted on 12/16/2005 1:09:48 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: USNBandit

About Gunnar Kuepper

http://www.emforum.org/eiip/VFRE/kuepper.htm


16 posted on 12/16/2005 1:12:32 PM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: untrained skeptic
>The runway is short, but it's been safely used for many flights a day for many years

Yes, but on that day
we'd just gotten lots of snow.
Papers here report

other pilots warned
the end of the runway was
in poor condition.

Again, papers here
report pilots suggested
a different runway,

but Midway didn't
open it because somehow
the different approach

would impact flights at
O'Hare. This mess will take weeks
to get sorted out.

17 posted on 12/16/2005 1:14:13 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

Lets see now....
A several hundred thousand pound vehicle (at this point) travelling on an icy snowy surface at 152 mph. I am thinking/conjecturing but it may have been a tad difficult for the crew to reach over, taking their hands off the wheel, and unlock and then engage thrust reversers which are locked during flight for obvious reasons.

FWIW I flew into Midway the next day and our 737 was slippping sliding and skidding until a stop.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 1:24:00 PM PST by slapshot ("USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away")
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To: theFIRMbss
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1541722/posts

From the NTSB report.

The pilots stated that everything was normal through the point of touchdown. Approaching the airport, weather was of concern to them, and they listened to the ATIS (the recorded weather update) four times during the latter portion of the flight. They stated that they agreed with the dispatcher's assessment of the conditions for landing on runway 31C and backed up that assessment by inputting the numbers into the on-board laptop computer tool.

The computer confirmed that the landing would be within the operational parameters of the airplane and Southwest's procedures, they said.


...

The flying pilot (Captain) stated that he could not get the reverse thrust levers out of the stowed position. The first officer, after several seconds, noticed that the thrust reversers were not deployed and activated the reversers without a problem.

...

FDR data show that thrust reversers were activated about 18 seconds after touchdown or about 14 seconds before contact with the blast fence. Testing and examination of the thrust reverser systems will continue.

They weren't the only plane landing in that weather. The pilots, the dispatcher, and the computer all apparently agreed that landing on that runway was within the set safety standards.

However the brakes on a plane that large are not meant to stop a plane in that short of a distance. The thrust reversers have to be used.

I would suggest reading the link to the report to get a better explaination of what the NTSB knows at this point than my few selective quotes provide.

19 posted on 12/16/2005 1:28:39 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: untrained skeptic
>I would suggest reading the link to the report to get a better explaination of what the NTSB knows at this point

I'm not sure I think
what folks say on the record
is the complete truth.

20 posted on 12/16/2005 1:32:52 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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