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San Diego's burden - City pays 80% of general fund to employees
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 12/16/05 | Editorial

Posted on 12/16/2005 9:02:42 AM PST by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 12/16/2005 9:02:43 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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Thar's still gold in them thar civil positions. Time to move to san Diego.


2 posted on 12/16/2005 9:03:51 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Look for the public employees union bankruptcy label.


3 posted on 12/16/2005 9:04:59 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NormsRevenge

San Diego needs a violence tax on moovies - it's for the children


4 posted on 12/16/2005 9:08:36 AM PST by Republicus2001
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Jeez. When I worked for a San Diego-based state assemblyman I only made $42,500 and worked 50-60 hours a week. I was told that everyone there makes lower salaries than elsewhere because they get "sunshine dollars" (i.e., people will work for less money to live in a sunny and warm place). Guess that doesn't count for bureaucrats.


5 posted on 12/16/2005 9:10:53 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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From what I understand, housing in San Diego is very expensive.

I think there's now a sunshine pay premium because of the horrendous cost of living.

I'm thinking of leaving the US because I can't stand living in a cold-weather climate, but all the warm weather states are too expensive :-(.

D


6 posted on 12/16/2005 9:30:26 AM PST by daviddennis (;)
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If 80% of funds are spent solely on personel costs they need to be firing a lot of folks. Even in labor intensive businesses like nursing homes, personel costs are around 60%.


7 posted on 12/16/2005 9:44:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Ever try to fire a worker in the People's Republic of California. It ain't that easy. America's Finest City (about 25 years ago San Diego may have merited that title) will ultimately be forced into bankruptcy by the unions and the City Council they control.


8 posted on 12/16/2005 9:48:50 AM PST by p. henry
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To: NormsRevenge
Time to move to San Diego.

Don't think they're hiring.

9 posted on 12/16/2005 10:23:16 AM PST by luvbach1 (Near the belly of the beast in San Diego)
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"From what I understand, housing in San Diego is very expensive."

My brother and his wife just bought a condo in SD last month. Something like 1200-1300 sq feet and it cost them over $480K.

10 posted on 12/16/2005 10:27:23 AM PST by Marko413
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"From what I understand, housing in San Diego is very expensive." """

Yes, it is. But the point of this article is that people in the government sector -- IN SAN DIEGO -- are paid much more than people in the private sector. That's basically socialism -- the government workers live like kings, and the non-government workers live like serfs, and have to scrimp and save so they can pay taxes to fund the benefits of the government workers.

11 posted on 12/16/2005 10:59:26 AM PST by churchillbuff
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"From what I understand, housing in San Diego is very expensive." """

The point of this article is that San Diego's government workers are paid much more than San Diego's private-sector workers. That's basically socialism -- the government workers live like kings, and the non-government workers live like serfs, and have to scrimp and save so they can pay taxes to fund the benefits of the government workers.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 11:00:31 AM PST by churchillbuff
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This is not exclusivbe to San Diego by any means.

The biggest voting block in the State of Oregon is present and former public service employee union members. There's been a half baked effort to reforms PERS (Public Employees Retirement System) for several years with little effort. In short, the PERS Board was made up primarily of PERS beneficiaries, and voted themselves absurd mandatory rates of return on their pensions.

There are towns in Oregon that have to lay people off in order to pay their share of PERS.

The city of Portland, OR pays their teachers in the top tier nationwide. Part of the package is health insurance that costs over $1100.00 per month per employee in the whole system. They even get acupuncture and massages paid for on their plan.

At the same time there is active discussion of a regional income tax in the Portland area "to pay for our children's schools". More accurate is that they need the money to keep up with the hemorrhage into the local Teacher's Union.

San Diego is playing catch up...


13 posted on 12/16/2005 11:11:03 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Heats!!)
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This is not exclusivbe to San Diego by any means.

True.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 11:14:30 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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In a typical gov't school budget, 90% goes to teacher salaries.


15 posted on 12/16/2005 11:14:40 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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In a typical gov't school budget, 90% goes to teacher salaries.

...and the administrators tolerate this? ;-)


16 posted on 12/16/2005 11:16:39 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The problem is twofold, allowing the existence of public employee unions (they should be banned...again) and not having lifetime term limits imposed on elected officials at ALL levels of government, from dog catcher to the POTUS.


17 posted on 12/16/2005 11:21:08 AM PST by quark
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To: NormsRevenge

The greatest personnel costs and highest percentage of general revenue funds go to public safety employees, not the typical public works or cleical employee.

This has been a trend in California cities (and nationally) for quite some time.

Public safety pay and benefits, including lush retirement packages, are the reason that such a great percentage of municipal general funds are being consumed as personnel costs.

The reason? Public safety employees have a lot of political clout and local politicians will give them the moon to gain their endorsement.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 11:43:46 AM PST by telebob
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San Diego should consider a violence tax on Hollywood moovies - it's for the children


19 posted on 12/16/2005 11:47:15 AM PST by Republicus2001
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Maybe they can pay for it like Illinois.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1542074/posts?page=1


20 posted on 12/16/2005 5:28:29 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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