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'Girlie men' remark began Schwarzenegger's battle and downfall
Sac Bee ^ | 12/16/05 | Dan Walters

Posted on 12/16/2005 8:57:06 AM PST by NormsRevenge

It was mid-July 2004. The constitutional deadline for enacting a state budget had passed a month earlier, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, eight months into his governorship, was squabbling with Democratic lawmakers over a spate of budget-related issues.

Schwarzenegger was frustrated because he had, in his own mind, bent over backward to accommodate Democrats' demands for sparing health and welfare programs from severe cuts, even though the state faced a multibillion-dollar deficit. He had abandoned his initial demands for midyear spending reductions and then added $3 billion to his revised budget.

In return, Schwarzenegger had sought concessions, such as making it easier for local governments and schools to contract out services, rather than restrict them to unionized employees. Mostly, however, he wanted to deliver his first budget on time to demonstrate that his election in 2003 was bearing fruit, and Democrats, he concluded, were gratuitously stalling. So he returned to the campaign trail with rallies before friendly audiences to bash them as "obstructionists," ...

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"If they (Democrats) don't have the guts to come up here in front of you and say, 'I don't want to represent you, I want to represent those special interests, the unions, the trial lawyers, and I want them to make the millions of dollars - if they don't have the guts, I call them girlie men," Schwarzenegger shouted.

At the time, it seemed that "girlie men" (interestingly enough, first uttered by comedian Dana Carvey during a "Saturday Night Live" parody of Schwarzenegger) was just another throwaway line from the one-time action movie star, something like "I'll be back" or "Hasta la vista, baby." But in truth, it was the moment when the first phase of Schwarzenegger's up-and-down governorship ended and a 16-month power struggle, culminating in the Nov. 8 special election, began.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: battle; california; downfall; girliemen; remark; schwarzenegger
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1 posted on 12/16/2005 8:57:07 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The line got him a cheap pop at the RNC, at least!


2 posted on 12/16/2005 8:58:01 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: NormsRevenge

just another throwaway line from the one-time action movie star, something like "I'll be back" or "Hasta la vista, baby."

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from a throwaway Gubinor who can't tell his left from his right or can he?


3 posted on 12/16/2005 8:58:47 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge
"'Girlie men' remark began Schwarzenegger's battle and downfall"

Or so the girlie men want us to believe.

4 posted on 12/16/2005 9:04:07 AM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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Or so the girlie men want us to believe.

Heh, heh, heh....looks like one of those "if we say it loud enough and long enough, people will believe it" situations.

Gov. needs to re-position himself before the jackals have too much time to congregate.
5 posted on 12/16/2005 9:07:35 AM PST by hummingbird (Think I'll google for a while.....on FRED THOMPSON for a seat on the SUPREME COURT!)
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To: NormsRevenge
In retrospect, the "girlie men" remark and all it implied was a tactical political error that came to haunt Schwarzenegger.

Nonsense. The author would have us believe that the Democrats in the legislature would have gone along with Schwarzenegger if only he had not spoken harshly about them. I don't buy that for an instance.

6 posted on 12/16/2005 9:08:08 AM PST by Logophile
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"The author would have us believe that the Democrats in the legislature would have gone along with Schwarzenegger if only he had not spoken harshly about them."

Exactly right. They would have him show weakness? Yeah! That'd work real well.

7 posted on 12/16/2005 9:11:48 AM PST by davisfh
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To: NormsRevenge
'Girlie men' remark began Schwarzenegger's battle and downfall.

I disagree. It bolstered his appeal with me. Need more "straight shooters" in the RNC. In other words...call a spade a spade.
8 posted on 12/16/2005 9:18:47 AM PST by Arcy
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9 posted on 12/16/2005 9:19:31 AM PST by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death"( Al-Qaeda & Democratic Party)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sometimes, just for the heck of it, I do a really bad Ahnold impression and say, "Don't be such a girly man!" It's so much fun... :)


10 posted on 12/16/2005 9:19:51 AM PST by 4mycountry (Now that's just freaking freaky.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Walters has been a Dem hack for years.

Yes, the Dems won the last round, but they had to empty their coffers of tens of millions of dollars to do it. The battle is not over.


11 posted on 12/16/2005 9:22:07 AM PST by BigBobber
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I expected those who think Girlie Man was some genius stroke to show up.

imo, it's sad commentary on the depths that politics has sunk to as well as folks ability to analyze politicians and see thru the hype that surrounds this Gub.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 9:33:37 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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If Walters thinks the democrats would have gone along with budgetary sanity if only Arnold had been "nicer" to them, then Walters is living in a dream world.


13 posted on 12/16/2005 10:09:40 AM PST by Bonaparte
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To: NormsRevenge

The phrase is apropos especially in CA, specifically San Francisco.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 10:15:57 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: Bonaparte

It would have been nice if he had tried to show a little backbone on the budget side of things.

Maybe, next time. (Yeah right)


15 posted on 12/16/2005 10:20:55 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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---Oh no you didn't go there! ROTFLMAO

16 posted on 12/16/2005 10:53:48 AM PST by WasDougsLamb (I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
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To: NormsRevenge
'Girlie men' remark began Schwarzenegger's battle and downfall

Nonsense.

17 posted on 12/16/2005 10:54:29 AM PST by Lazamataz (Liberals screwed again: HOLIDAY derives from the words Holy Day. NOW what will they do?)
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'Girlie men' remark began Schwarzenegger's battle and downfall

Nonsense.

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It could have been his 2 budgets he proposed too, both whoppers. or quite a few other things.


18 posted on 12/16/2005 11:21:18 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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I think it was his sagging muscles and his angular wife.

Or was it his angular muscles and sagging wife?

19 posted on 12/16/2005 11:22:09 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Over it is not, until over it is." -- Yoda Berra)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, Maria looked like she won the Extreme Makeover competition if a recent pic is untouched. ;-)

cotton balls and pancake powder can do that for a person.


20 posted on 12/16/2005 11:23:49 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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