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Trent Lott sues insurance company over loss of Pascagoula home
Sun Herald ^ | 12-12-5 | ANITA LEE

Posted on 12/16/2005 4:33:38 AM PST by WKB

GULFPORT - U.S. Sen. Trent Lott and wife Tricia are suing State Farm Fire and Casualty Co. over its refusal to cover the loss of their Pascagoula home to Hurricane Katrina.

The Lotts' suit, filed today in U.S. District Court, accuses the insurance company of fraud for denying coverage based on a "flood" exemption and asks that the court order the claim paid. It further asks that the insurance company be prohibited from using the flood exemption to deny coverage.

Attorney Richard "Dickie" Scruggs is representing his sister and brother-in-law in the lawsuit.

The Lotts paid insurance premiums for more than 40 years, according to the lawsuit, believing they would be covered for all losses caused by a hurricane. Katrina left a slab where their waterfront home once stood.

Homeowner's insurance policies in Mississippi and other states cover wind damage but typically include language to exclude flood damage, whether or not it is caused by wind-driven water.

The lawsuit argues that the storm surge was part of the hurricane and can't be considered flooding. It also points out that, under established law in Mississippi, when wind is considered to the "proximate" cause of damage, a claim should be paid even if other factors contributed to the loss.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: katrina; lawsuit; pascagoula; trentlott
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To: WKB
Many of my New Orleans friends and relatives will be very, very happy if Lott wins his case.


Good Luck Trent, We Are Pulling for you down here in Louisiana!
61 posted on 12/16/2005 5:27:25 AM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: Abathar
Living in most parts of Indiana teaches you to build your home high enough above the 500 year flood mark.

We were there last January when the place looked like a gigantic lake. Fortunately most of the roads through the bottoms are elevated.

62 posted on 12/16/2005 5:29:01 AM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: Jemian

Being in FL and knowing how the insurance rules work, if the water came form above, it isn't flooding. If it's rising water, it's flooding. Storm surge, for decades, is classified as flooding. If it is to be covered on an insurance policy, then expect your premium to be 5 times higher. For people in FL, that would easily mean over $5K a year.


63 posted on 12/16/2005 5:30:12 AM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: muawiyah
A few weeks ago when that tornado hit Indiana it did not appear the homes were build strong enough to withstand the wind.

Perhaps they should no longer sell insurance to the residents of your state.
64 posted on 12/16/2005 5:31:22 AM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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To: WKB; All
Did you see this?
Trent Lott Sponsored Retroactive(?) Flood Insurance Bill
66 posted on 12/16/2005 5:32:04 AM PST by MaryFromMichigan
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To: Jemian

I hope he loses. The insurance company covers losses according to the policy. If flooding isn't there, it ain't covered. Most insurance companies don't cover flooding unless you purchase that specifically in the policy.


67 posted on 12/16/2005 5:32:07 AM PST by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: gridlock
Mississippi juries can do all the deciding they want, but the end result will be the withdrawal of the property and casualty insurance companies from the state.

No one, and I mean no one in any business, will ever locate in Mississippi ~ and that's why all such jury awards will be overturned on appeal ~ if there's a judge left to make the decisions!

68 posted on 12/16/2005 5:34:07 AM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: Jemian
"Storm surge is part of the hurricane system. If the hurricane had not been there, the storm surge would not have happened."

He didn’t buy “hurricane” insurance. There’s no such thing.

69 posted on 12/16/2005 5:34:10 AM PST by elfman2
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To: Herodian
However, a Category 5 hurricaine has 175 mph winds and this may be reason nothing is left on Lott's property but a cement pad.
Otherwise, you would just have a flooded home still standing if it was only water damage.

1) There was nothing remotely resembling Category 5 winds anywhere on the Mississippi Coast, as Katrina was not a Category 5 landfall or even that close to one there.

2)Storm surge is FAR more effective at completely demolishing a house and leaving a flat slab than wind. And you'll find basically no houses even a few miles inland outside the surge zone that are flat slabs from wind damage.

Storm surge is water in motion with waves on top. You know very little about hurricanes or their damage.

70 posted on 12/16/2005 5:34:57 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: WKB

This guy wants State Farm to pay him insurance for coverage they do not even sell. I used to expect better from Republicans, but I guess not. Removing him as majority leader was clearly a good move.


71 posted on 12/16/2005 5:35:15 AM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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To: doc30
I believe you attributed a statement to me that I did not make.

In any case, I could probably weasel out of the flood insurance policy on my house, given that only a portion of the property is below the line. But I choose to get the flood insurance because it is a good deal and heavily subsidized by the FedGuv. I would be an idiot not to take it. After my mortgage is paid off (May 2007!!!), I will still carry the insurance. I would be a fool not to.

But if I am going to have to bail out every uninsured yahoo in Mississippi, and the rates quadruple, I will have to think again.

If Trent is successful and homeowners insurance companies are required to cover flood losses, it will completely change the insurance industry. Hopefully, the companies will start excluding properties that should really be uninsurable, and the subsidies will be eliminated.

72 posted on 12/16/2005 5:36:12 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Jemian
We can use "words" in the boilerplate of property and casualty insurance to say "does not cover storm surge".

There, how's that!

Easy, eh?!

73 posted on 12/16/2005 5:37:58 AM PST by muawiyah (u)
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

If Trent and Dickie win, contract law will have been stood up on its head. Wind driven surge is specifically NOT protected under standard insurance contracts.

If they do win, where will you get your insurance? - and, please, not a word about the much higher premiums that you will pay to keep the remaining insurance companies solvent. The cost will be passed to YOU and ME.

Additionally, the folks who purchased Flood insurance need to have their premiums refunded if Trent and Dickie win this crazy lawsuit.


74 posted on 12/16/2005 5:38:13 AM PST by StoneWallJack
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To: muawiyah

What really bothers me is that I live on top of a hill, and if I want to buy flood insurance they won't sell it to me. You have to live in the flood plain to get it, if I want it I can't buy it. Go figure.


75 posted on 12/16/2005 5:39:02 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: gridlock

Amen. I'm about tired of the whining from people who can afford to live on the water but not to pay the insurance to protect their own property. Gimme a break.


76 posted on 12/16/2005 5:39:04 AM PST by mjrsgrlnMD
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To: Jemian

I saw one story where a man had hurricane AND flood insurance coverage. He had some flood damage AND his entire roof was ripped off his home by the wind. THe insurance rep told him they would only pay for the water damage but not both. I forget the ridiculous reason given.


77 posted on 12/16/2005 5:40:04 AM PST by Muzzle_em ("Get busy LIVING or get busy dying")
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To: Jemian

"Storm surge caused by hurricanes is not "flooding", it is hurricane damage."

Agreed. Without the hurricane-force winds, there is no storm surge. Storm surge damage is a direct result of hurricane-force winds.


78 posted on 12/16/2005 5:41:07 AM PST by WmCraven_Wk
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To: Little Ray
State Farm (our insurer) has some weird rules. We had water damage from a leak (caused by tornado roof damage) on some dining room chairs. They would only pay for the recovering of the seats that were damaged, not the ones which would ALSO have to be recovered in order to have a matched set.

I managed to argue with the adjustor (through my agent) successfully by pointing out the HUGE payment they gave to Clinton for his "sexual harassment" policy, which paid for attorneys during impeachment. I threatened to write the papers in this heavily Republican area and point out the disparity of the settlements.

I think an argument can be made either way on Lott's home, but I am more concerned about the people who were outside the flood zone and still got a storm surge because of the force of Katrina. Therre was no reasonable reason for those people to have flood insurance, but they lost everything, and the insurance companies are trying to weasel out of those people's coverage as well.

Also, I would like to point out for those who don't know it, that if sewers back up in your home you are not covered by either normal insurance or flood insurance. I ran into this with customers I had several years ago and I discovered you need a separate rider for sewer back-up. If you have a basement, or live in areas that occasionally have this problem, or if you want to make sure you have all your bases covered, this is a rider that should be attached (at least this is the case in Indiana). Earthquake insurance is also something we carry for a nominal fee, because damage from an earthquake is not covered by your regular policy.

79 posted on 12/16/2005 5:41:51 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: StoneWallJack
My properties in New Orleans all suffered wind damage but not flood damage. I was very lucky as I did not carry flood insurance. Other people that did not have flood ins. tore holes in their roof as told the insurance people that the water came in from the top rather than the bottom.
80 posted on 12/16/2005 5:42:12 AM PST by H. Paul Pressler IV
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