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Gold falls again but holds above $500
Yahoo! News ^ | Dec 15,2005 | Chris Flood

Posted on 12/15/2005 9:25:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot

Gold continued its downward correction for a third day in succession but held above the psychological $500 level during European trading on Thursday.Dealers said the precious metal was finding support at the lower levels. Gold sank to $500.25 but recovered to trade at $506.70/$507.50 a troy ounce late in London. But there could be further downward pressure on prices after the Tokyo Commodity Exchange (TOCOM) took steps to allow sell-orders to be cleared. Gold has fallen by the maximum daily limit imposed by TOCOM immediately after opening for the last three days so not all sell orders have been processed. TOCOM will increase the daily limit for movements in the gold price from Y75 to Y100 from today. Sell orders placed before the opening will be limited to general market participants while commission houses will only be able to place sell orders on their own account 10 minutes after the opening. Silver reversed its early decline to trade around 20 cents higher at $8.58/$8.61 a troy ounce. Platinum, which has the largest speculative interest of all the metals, moved fractionally lower to $954/957 a troy ounce.A survey by Barclays Capital found investors are planning to significantly raise their exposure to commodities over the next three years. Almost 70 per cent of respondents expected to increase their exposure to commodities to 5 per cent or more of their portfolio.Reflecting concern over supplies and potential production shortages, Morgan Stanley (AMEX:MWD) published significantly higher price forecasts for metals with a 19 per cent increase for gold in 2006 from $400 to $446 and a 25 per cent rise in the forecast for both copper and zinc next year.An opposing view came from Nick Moore of ABN Amro. He said he expected a sharp reduction in the copper price during 2006 which, depending on its severity, could impinge upon the entire base metals complex.Three month copper traded 0.6 per cent lower at $4,329.5 a tonne while three month zinc fell 2.3 per cent to $1,771.5 a tonne. Natural gas prices were in focus after inventory data showed a greater than expected decline in the week to December 9.Nymex Henry Hub for January delivery was trading just 4 cents lower at $14.64 per million British thermal units having run up to $14.92 immendiately after the inventories data. After a decline earlier in the session, crude oil prices firmed with IPE Brent for January delivery up 40 cents at $60 a barrrel. The January contract was due to expire on Thursday so there was greater volume in the February contract, which rose 26 cents to $60.10. January Nymex West Texas Intermediate was unchanged at $60.85.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: gold; goldbuggers
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Hmmmm.
1 posted on 12/15/2005 9:25:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Petronski
Buy your big ass hunk of gold, before it gets cheaper!!
2 posted on 12/15/2005 9:26:59 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

NO $hit. I can smell speculative pumping from a mile away, especially when it comes to the gold pumpers. They are some of the most idiotic conspiracy theorists out there.


3 posted on 12/15/2005 9:31:22 PM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

Silly goldbugs.


4 posted on 12/15/2005 9:32:01 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Gordongekko909
Someone wants to trade me pieces of paper with ink on them for a metal that has had monetary value for thousands of years. I think not!
5 posted on 12/15/2005 9:50:59 PM PST by vic ryan
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To: vic ryan

All I know is, Best Buy will only accept those pieces of paper in exchange for video games. They don't take gold. And I needs my video games.


6 posted on 12/15/2005 9:57:52 PM PST by Gordongekko909 (I know. Let's cut his WHOLE BODY off.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The recent spike led to profit taking. Gold hasn't finished rising. It will push $580 by spring.

The fundamentals have not changed.


7 posted on 12/15/2005 10:09:01 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: beaver fever
Gold hasn't finished rising.

That's right....because you can't beat the dividend it pays. Or is it interest?

8 posted on 12/15/2005 10:15:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You're missing the point. There are many ways you can profit from Gold:

Invest in Majors and get upside on the stock price and dividends; invest in selective junior and get 1:5 upside on a short term play; invest in juniors who are purchasing royalties, (Franco Nevada and Battle Mountain Gold); buy physical gold or gold futures.

Gold is both a good long term investment and a good short term speculative play. But you have to understand the business.

Barrick's Bulyanhulu Mine is the first major gold mine that has opened in the last 15 years. Gold is in deficit on the supply side and no new big mines will come into production in the next five years.

The supply fundamentals ensure that putting 10% to 15% of your portfolio into gold will give you a good hedge against a downturn in other investments and unexpected consequences of currency fluctuations.

Think of gold as house insurance. You don't think about it until your garage catches fire. Once that happens you're thankful you made the investment.

Here's a little hint about where gold is going. Chinese banks are going to allow their customers to buy gold certificates over the counter like cash. Dubai is issuing E-Cash over the Internet backed by gold.

Don't throw your whole portfolio into gold but put a good percentage into metals to protect your other investments.
9 posted on 12/15/2005 10:54:25 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I hope it falls further because I am putting in an order for some bullion coins in the morning and want the cheapest price.


10 posted on 12/15/2005 11:25:20 PM PST by Chewbacca (Not all men are fools. The smart ones are still bachelors.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Way back when, my Mom invested in gold. She died ten years ago and never got her initial investment back. Love to read these "buy gold" posts. They are really more like day traders than investors.

I will stay with my stocks which have done much better than gold, even if they dropped by half.


11 posted on 12/16/2005 3:57:17 AM PST by KeyWest
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To: beaver fever

Good post. You're right, of course, but the folks on this thread aren't really here to listen, they've got an agenda to push.

Gold and silver are back up already despite increased requirements for buying in the foreign markets.


12 posted on 12/16/2005 5:25:22 AM PST by D.P.Roberts
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To: beaver fever
Think of gold as house insurance.

So if I bought this "house insurance" back in 1980, I've lost 44% of my house? What kind of insurance works like that? Bad insurance.

13 posted on 12/16/2005 6:40:54 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Let's say you bought this "house insurance" prior to 1980 at $36, $37, etc. per oz.? How would your "house insurance" now be at $500/oz.? Some people have short memories or no memory prior to recent birthdays.


14 posted on 12/16/2005 4:01:55 PM PST by vic ryan
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To: vic ryan
Let's say you bought this "house insurance" prior to 1980 at $36, $37, etc. per oz.?

So sometimes the insurance works....and sometimes it doesn't? Remind me not to buy that kind of insurance for anything important. LOL!!

15 posted on 12/16/2005 4:38:56 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You can't eat, you can't burn it. BUT, you can sell it to people who have more money than sense.


16 posted on 12/16/2005 4:42:11 PM PST by stboz
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Don't forget not to buy it for anything important. You've been reminded.

In fact if anybody gives you any I'm sure you'll toss it in the ole dumpster. Right?


17 posted on 12/16/2005 9:43:06 PM PST by vic ryan
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To: vic ryan
In fact if anybody gives you any I'm sure you'll toss it in the ole dumpster. Right?

I'd probably sell it to some doofus.

18 posted on 12/17/2005 7:56:01 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Wouldn't you feel bad taking real paper with ink on it for that worthless metal? Screwing some poor doofus is not a nice thing to do.
19 posted on 12/17/2005 9:26:21 PM PST by vic ryan
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To: vic ryan
Wouldn't you feel bad taking real paper with ink on it for that worthless metal?

Where did I say it was worthless? Just not a very reliable insurance policy.

20 posted on 12/17/2005 9:44:21 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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