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CENTER WILL NOT HOLD FOR HILLARY
The New York Post ^ | 15 Dec 2005 | Deborah Orin

Posted on 12/15/2005 1:47:47 PM PST by goresalooza

December 15, 2005 -- IF Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton really wants to run for president, it looks as if she needs a new strategy, because her tortured triangulation is now backfiring so badly that even draft-Hillary fans are mad at her.

In fact, draft-Hillary chief Bob Kunst — who broadcast the first pro-Hillary TV ads of the 2008 cycle — is so upset that he's mulling new ads to accuse triangulation champ Bill Clinton of betraying his wife politically.

Bill Clinton invented triangulation — trying to grab the center and paint foes on both sides as extremists. It was great for him in the 1990s, when...

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary2008; toesonredmeds; triangulation
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To: SteveMcKing

I hope she does. We will even take Massachusetts.


21 posted on 12/15/2005 2:08:13 PM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: babydoll22

"I have never been able to understand why Dole ran. Certainly there were better candidates. "

Exactimundo! The GOP, in '96, begged Colin Powell to run but he refused. There was someone else, forget who, but the GOP ended up with Dole, who today is brilliantly funny and smart. He did not come off well vs clintoon in the debates and he appeared dour and too serious. Image is EVERYTHING, which is why hitlery hasn't a chance in hell, IMO.

LOL.


22 posted on 12/15/2005 2:10:57 PM PST by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

You're right, after 10 "ya know" s in one paragraph, mind-numbing takes over and not another word is heard.


23 posted on 12/15/2005 2:12:07 PM PST by tillacum (MERRY CHIRISTMAS ONE AND ALL. BIRTHDAY OF JESUS CHRIST, TEACHER.)
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To: Taliesan
Hillary is different. The more she talks, the more she irritates everybody, except the hard Left, because she comes across as the humorless dogmatic socialist she really is.

You're absolutely right. Say what you will about Bill Clinton he had the knack of connecting with people and Hillary just doesn't. The idea of Hillary Clinton sounds very formidable but the reality of Hillary is just the opposite. Her candidacy will evaporate once people actually start voting. She'll be the Ed Muskie of 2008.

24 posted on 12/15/2005 2:12:47 PM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: goresalooza

Waistband won't hold for her either.


25 posted on 12/15/2005 2:14:37 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: goresalooza
Things fall apart, the center cannot hold.---- W.B. Yeats

Please, dear God, no "Second Coming" of any clinton.

26 posted on 12/15/2005 2:16:19 PM PST by Carolinamom
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To: goresalooza
It was great for him in the 1990s, when there was a political center, but today is an era of polarization.

Yeah, in the 1990s, before blogs, FReepers, etc., you could get away with this. Fortunately, as Dr. Lecter would say, "But not anymore!"

27 posted on 12/15/2005 2:27:23 PM PST by upchuck (Article posts of just one or two sentences do not preserve the quality of FR. Lazy FReepers be gone!)
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To: American Quilter
I didn't want to have to subscribe

bugmenot

28 posted on 12/15/2005 2:36:18 PM PST by zeebee
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To: BenLurkin

Ben can U imagine her in a corsett? Like a large Hippo.


29 posted on 12/15/2005 2:36:57 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: goresalooza
In fact, draft-Hillary chief Bob Kunst

Mike's brother?

30 posted on 12/15/2005 2:43:30 PM PST by ghost of nixon
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To: goresalooza

Who says the media never gives us any good news?


31 posted on 12/15/2005 2:47:47 PM PST by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: Taliesan
Hillary is different. The more she talks, the more she irritates everybody, except the hard Left, because she comes across as the humorless dogmatic socialist she really is.

Count me into the 'Anybody but Hillary' column. Although...part of me would enjoy watching her suffer in a debate with a George Allen, Mitt Romney or Condoleeza Rice. All are attractive, well-spoken people who exude warmth and charm (to me, at least).

And then there's Hillary...short, stout, schoolmarmy and always angry. Add the socialism and stir, and her 'appeal' will dwindle nationwide within the time it takes to watch a town hall format debate.

Just my take on it.
32 posted on 12/15/2005 3:12:29 PM PST by LostInBayport (Massachusetts liberals refuse to admit we exist...we are the 37% of MA voters who voted for GWB)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Perot gave clintoon the election......couldn't believe how many voted for old Ross.


33 posted on 12/15/2005 3:15:02 PM PST by tioga
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To: goresalooza

'draft-Hillary chief Bob Kunst'

Gotta love that name...honestly, the best stuff you just can't make up


34 posted on 12/15/2005 3:15:20 PM PST by SueRae
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To: goresalooza

I'll believe the moonbats will abandon Hillary when I see it.


35 posted on 12/15/2005 3:26:08 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Taliesan

I'd love to see her legendary temper come out during a debate.


36 posted on 12/15/2005 3:28:11 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Joe Boucher

I've wondered if the stools for the town hall debate will be able to hold!


37 posted on 12/15/2005 3:30:00 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: goresalooza
"True..but I don't see hitlery finding a 3rd party candidate..."

that would be John McCain - male, moderate republican, war hero.
38 posted on 12/15/2005 3:53:53 PM PST by frankenMonkey (Name one civil liberty that was not paid for in blood)
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To: goresalooza
I don't see hitlery finding a 3rd party candidate to run in the same way Perot did.

Oh, yes, she will. McCain will never get the GOP nomination, and I imagine he would be happy to mess with the GOP candidate in return for a good position in a hillary admin. Maybe Sec. of Def.
There are other possibilities, but he's clearly one who would do it.

39 posted on 12/15/2005 3:53:54 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

actually, my thought was the hitlery and mccain will run as independents, hill as prez, mcpain as vp.


40 posted on 12/15/2005 4:06:44 PM PST by frankenMonkey (Name one civil liberty that was not paid for in blood)
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