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Man must stand trial for selling MARTA token
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 12/14/05 | ap

Posted on 12/15/2005 11:07:05 AM PST by logician2u

A man accused of selling a MARTA token to a passenger having trouble with a token machine must stand trial on the criminal charge.

Judge Stephanie Davis decided Tuesday that Donald Pirone's case should be bound over to state court for trial. Pirone could face a year in jail.

An officer spotted Pirone selling the token on Nov. 30 inside the West End subway station. Following a 1992 state law that prohibits passengers from selling tokens, the officer handcuffed Pirone and gave him a citation.

Pirone says he was trying to help a fellow passenger. He says he did not ask for money and that the passenger gave him $1.75 -- the price of a token -- out of generosity.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: abuse; atlanta; fiat; judges; marta; money; stupidity; subways; token; transit
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To: MarkL
The best that can come from a jury trial is acquittal.

However, if the guy has a competent attorney, he might sue MARTA for civil damages.

If that went to trial, I can envision some very interesting testimony:

[Pirone's attorney]: Now, would you please give us a brief history of MARTA's issuing tokens as money substitutes for travel on its purported rapid-transit system?

[MARTA manager]: Uh, I would challenge that description of tokens as well as your using "purported" to characterize our rapid-transit system. I . .

[MARTA attorney, rising] OBJECTION, your honor. Witness is being asked to commit perjury.

It could get hairy.
41 posted on 12/15/2005 11:54:28 AM PST by logician2u
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To: jsk10

Don't forget all the "New South" garbage and now using Hartsfields ICAO code as some kind of slogan. "The ATL"


42 posted on 12/15/2005 11:54:45 AM PST by rattrap
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To: tfecw

Then let him stand trial, find him guilty, fine him $10 and walk. Then present to the legislature the bill for court time and cost, which is at least the cost of a traffic court appearence. For a damn $1.75 token. When Marta can't fix its broken machines.


43 posted on 12/15/2005 11:55:39 AM PST by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: vigilo

LOL.

I'm curious if anyone knows if its safe to travel MARTA. I have to go to Atlanta next month on business and will likely use the train. I have never been on a subway in my life.:(


44 posted on 12/15/2005 11:59:27 AM PST by JRochelle
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To: logician2u

No, I am not.


45 posted on 12/15/2005 12:17:33 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: logician2u
Who are the (idiot taxpayer funded gov't employee) bozos who designed this 'token' system?

Put your money in the machine which is set up to allow you to punch in your route and dispense a date/time stamped ticket for your ride that day.

For commuters, a card or some kind of RFID device (I do know that MARTA has been around for a while, but hey how about updating the system every now and then?) to validate their route and spit out a ticket for that day's ride.

46 posted on 12/15/2005 12:21:24 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Sick and tired of being sick and tired of being screwed over.)
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To: sgtbono2002
What an idiot!

Weeping willows are supposed to be planted next to the horse trough, or in that low damp spot in the back yard. That's what they're for, isn't it?

47 posted on 12/15/2005 12:22:21 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: sgtbono2002

LOL..yea, they'll grow into his sink, toilet etc..AFTER they wrap around the septic lines and puncture them..


48 posted on 12/15/2005 12:23:40 PM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: Looking4Truth

I forgot about the need for the city dwellers to have a flexible system to ride at random, but current technology could solve that one very easily, I'm sure.


49 posted on 12/15/2005 12:24:46 PM PST by Looking4Truth (Sick and tired of being sick and tired of being screwed over.)
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To: JRochelle

"I'm curious if anyone knows if its safe to travel MARTA."

Well, I've used it and it seemed okay. But frankly I wouldn't want my wife or kids on it, especially after the sun goes down. The cops are more interested in arresting people for 'token' violations than anything else.


50 posted on 12/15/2005 12:28:18 PM PST by vigilo (Everything I needed to know about George Bush and the Republican Party I learned from CFR.)
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To: Mack the knife
There's even listings for this stuff on eBay.
51 posted on 12/15/2005 12:31:05 PM PST by RightField (The older you get . . . the older "old" is !)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Sometimes that low damp spot in the backyard is your septic system. Nothing will ruin one like a weeping willow. But this guy has a big job with the Gubmint and is smarter than me.


52 posted on 12/15/2005 12:33:11 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Looking4Truth
There is a new technology that would work even better than an ID card.

Public transit riders might make an ideal test group. Submissive, eager for government hand-outs, willing to go along with the crowd, wherever it's going . .

Kewl, huh?

53 posted on 12/15/2005 12:36:39 PM PST by logician2u
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

Lol!


54 posted on 12/15/2005 12:38:14 PM PST by Ignatz (I misunderstood you correctly the first time.)
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To: sgtbono2002
In our case, it's a live spring.

You couldn't put a septic field there because it wouldn't pass the perc test. Water goes nowhere. Which is why I planted the 3 weeping willows . . . if you have a horse trough and the horses splash their water and trample up the mud, a few willows right behind the fence will work wonders (and eventually give Dobbin some shade.)

Thank heavens the county put the sewer out here!

We had a septic tank in our old house (IN the City of Atlanta - now we're in the county - go figure!) but I mapped the drainfield when they installed it and marked the edges. (I hate living in a house we didn't build, because I don't know exactly where all the wiring, plumbing, etc. is.)

55 posted on 12/15/2005 12:42:25 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: sgtbono2002

LOL!!! Been there, seen the results, and it was planted in my neighbors neighbors yard, about 80' from his drain field. I never knew how far the roots on those things traveled until the county made him cut the tree down, I think the ordinance is around 120' here. I have a bunch down by the lake, but the beavers have done most of them in.


56 posted on 12/15/2005 12:47:29 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: All

I don't see it at "selling" - I see it as "an exchange". Couldn't he use THAT for a defense??


57 posted on 12/15/2005 12:50:15 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: tfecw

Yes, that has happened here in the Sierras in CA. The people have moved up from the bay area and other cities and complain about the terrible life in the cities and then they try to force the same rules and BS life style on the people living here! Then they pass laws to limit home building so no one else can move in here and ruin it for them(after they have already ruined it for us long time residents) Arnold's new convservancy BS is part of this type of thinking.


58 posted on 12/15/2005 12:58:06 PM PST by calex59 (Seeing the light shouldn't make you blind...)
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To: jackibutterfly

Don't know, no one has quoted the law.


59 posted on 12/15/2005 12:59:59 PM PST by Deguello (If you want to hear God laugh, tell him your plans.)
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To: tfecw
Not at all. Equity consists in recognizing when the law is an ass. The aim behind the law is barely legitimate, but it is not even being furthered here. Any judge who enforces this is an ass, too.
60 posted on 12/15/2005 1:05:35 PM PST by JasonC
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