Posted on 12/15/2005 11:02:54 AM PST by dennisw
Say it how it is, brother!
We had this debate at home and that is exactly the solution I told my folks should be used, both in Israel and here.
JD and Duncan ought to pair up for 2008. Republicans with c@jon&s.
That was such a good show. I don't think I've ever seen Lou lose his cool like that! He's the only one on tv I see consistently standing up for the middle class.
"Of course, conservatives have been mad about a lot of Bush policies for a long time — education, immigration — but, in fairness to him, he campaigned as a massive federaliser of the school system and as a big nancy-boy pushover for illegal Mexicans. So we can't complain we were misled."
Has Bush Blown It?
Mark Steyn - October 8, 2005
If I'm home at 6PM I watch the first minute of Lou Dobbs to see what his topics are. Then I switch back and forth between Lou and Brit Hume/Fox. More and more I watch CNN at 6PM. But try to watch the last 15 minutes of Fox for the Fox all stars discussions
Lou is also all over China, our trade deficits and deporting of good jobs. All which I want to hear
Completely! I am rarely home by 4 pm to catch Lou, but am on vacation this week so can catch up.
I don't understand why Mexico can't get its own economy going. They have the oil money for infastructure, plus no labor unions or EPA. I guess its the corruption from top to bottom that keeps it so poor??
George Bush probably put Vicki boy up to saying that. They are two one worlders in the same stinkin pod.
No, I suppose we cannot complain, in the past two elections we were faced with two pairs of immigration leftists, Bush-Gore and Bush-Kerry. Still we were always going to be appalled when one of these three hack politicians actually started his assault on America, even if we knew it was coming.
Most of the arguments (apart from the detatched, theorhetical economic arguments)for "free trade" always:
a. Assume that all parties will "play by the rules"
b. Neglects the curse of human nature
So, while we were assured that NAFTA would keep American industry strong and Mexicans at home, it should have been realized that what would instead happen would have been that American corporations would take advantage of the cheap labor and relaxed regulation in Mexico, the Mexican government would take advantage of the expected foreign investment from the United Sates, and the lower-levels of Mexican society (those least equipped to take advantage of new opportunities) would continue to do what they always did: head North.
Until NAFTA and it's bastard children (CAFTA, etc) are rescinded or fail of their own volition, we will continue to have to struggle to assimilate millions of people who do not speak our language and who will eventually insinuate themselves within our democratic institutions, until their numbers are large enough to out-vote native-born Americans. In other words, we're creating a new Third-World country within our own borders which will eat us up from within.
Immigration, for all of it's faults, is a good thing. My own family emigrated here from Sicily at the turn of the last century, and I would not deny that privledge to anyone else, but, we have to stem the tide of illegal immigration somewhow.
NAFTA and other agreements like it do not solve the immigration problem because relatively few people can take advantage of their opportunities in places like Mexico, Hondouras, El Salavador, etc. AT the same time, it is impractical to arrest everyone crossing the borders or build a fence (as attractive an idea as that is, only the people who will benefit is the people who sell the fencing material). Nor is it practical to line the borders with armed soldiers with "shoot to kill" orders.
Perhaps we'd be better off if we took another path to stem the flow of illegal immigrants.
I would suggest that we start by denying benefits of all kinds to only actual American citizens. We deny the distinction of automatic citizenship to anyone born in an American hospoital except to those with American (native-born or naturalized) parents. Restrict attendance in public schools to native-born or naturalized Americans. Establish English as the chief lingua franca. Forbid the government to print official documents, forms, publications, etc in any language but English. Do thse things and you will cut the immigration problem dramatically. Enforce the labor laws on top of it, and the problem would almost disappear.
We have to stop making illegal immigration an attractive option by making it clear that it will not be tolerated.
I say we invest in some of these devices and arm them.
Vinnie Fox is operating under the delusion that he is somehow a "co-president" with Bush on matters Mexican -- he is president of Mexico, and president (with Bush) of all Mexicans in the US, legal or otherwise, with some kind of implied veto power over US laws and enforcement. He thinks that because people in charge here let him get away with it.
Congress is making a BIG mistake if they want to build a wall along our southern border. Because of their years of inactions, it's a little bit too late for that.
The ultimate goal of Vicente Fox is to annex as much of the southwest as he can. In many Southern California cities, the mexican population is now the majority. I'm sure this is true in AZ, NM, and TX.
The best place to build the wall is where it will still be effective. I say have it start just north of Ventura County then traverse east just south of Bishop, CA.(they can have Death Valley), and then south of Tuscon along Interstate 10 and finally end 5 blocks south of Bourbon Street (this way we can dump all of our excess water onto their side of the fence while we throw beads and drink Hurricanes.)
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