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To: TheForceOfOne
But...not reading to the end of the thread.

Bush must not have been able to override the veto. This is very disappointing.
132 posted on 12/15/2005 9:40:12 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish
All McPain did was to show he is weak on terror, I bet he was all giddy thinking he won some brownie points for the '08 elections.

I'm not sure who McPain thinks he impressed with this anti-Torture agreement. Most of us believe in the ticking bomb theory in which the information must be obtained over any cost to the terrorists well being. The terrorists are willing to die just to blow something up (full of innocent people) in the name of Allah.

The president has been hampered by a weak Congress full of Republicans who don't want to lead or be the majority. I think I would be very angry and frustrated if I knew what the president had to deal with when making decisions where Congress Republican support was absolutely necessary to press the issue. We never hear the whole story, there are always back room deals and promises being made by Congressmen that I believe care about more their own deals than our protection or the better of the country.

Everyone complains about the border and other issues pointing the finger squarely at the president but what is Congress doing? Nothing, a big fat nothing. If everyone says the president will not veto anything then why don't Congress Republicans use that to their advantage and push the issues we all want addressed such as adding thousands of more border patrolmen?

McPain had the votes from what I understand so what could the president do other than veto the McPain agreement and watch as the Congress over wrote his veto.

We have to start making Congress accountable, they will still be there when the presidents second term is over and they will still be doing the same old song and dance.
136 posted on 12/16/2005 5:30:08 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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