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Canada: Bystanders ignore plight of burning homeless man
The Times Colonist ^ | December 14, 2005 | Maurice Bridge

Posted on 12/14/2005 7:54:20 PM PST by Stoat

Bystanders ignore plight of burning homeless man

 

 
Christine Wellstead, an emergency room nurse at St. Paul's Hospital in Vancouver, stands near an alcove outside a Starbucks where she doused a homeless man whose comforter caught fire while he was sleeping.
Photograph by : Ian Smith, CanWest News Service
 
 
 
 

Maurice Bridge, CanWest News Service

Published: Wednesday, December 14, 2005
VANCOUVER -- St. Paul's emergency nurse Christine Wellstead has seen some pretty rough things on the job, but nothing has shaken her as much as the callous indifference she witnessed Monday night as bystanders ignored an unconscious homeless man wrapped in a burning comforter.

Wellstead was on her way home from work around 10:30 p.m. when she stopped at Starbucks at 19th and Cambie for a coffee. Smelling smoke, she walked outside to see what was burning, but all she could see was a woman sitting at an outside table, talking calmly on her phone as clouds of smoke rolled past her.

"She's on her cellphone, having her coffee and she's sitting amongst this acrid smoke," she said.

Looking further, Wellstead found a man slumped on a bench in a nearby alcove on the side street, wrapped in a comforter that was on fire.

"It was smouldering, and it was by his face," she said. "It was all orange, and there was smoke. I threw the blanket on the ground and tried to wake him up, but he didn't wake up."

She ran back into Starbucks for water to put out the fire, and that's when she got a real shock.

She said another woman customer standing at the counter told her: "Just leave him alone, he's a homeless person," Wellstead recalled. "I looked at her and I said, 'What are you talking about?'

"And she says, 'He's homeless, just forget it.' "

Appalled, Wellstead rushed back out with water to douse the fire and still couldn't wake the man, so she ran inside again and asked a barista to call for help.

"I said, 'You'd better call an ambulance, because I can't wake him up,' and the lady [customer] said, 'Don't call the hospital, they don't want him,' and I just looked at her, and I said, 'I work at the hospital and yeah, we want him.' "

Wellstead finally woke the man and got him sitting up as they waited for the ambulance. He told her he was prone to seizures and believed he had one while he was smoking, wrapped in his comforter against the night chill.

Wellstead said she didn't believe he suffered serious burns. The fire and ambulance crews who answered the call were great, she said, and treated him with respect as they took him away to St. Paul's Hospital.

The ambulance service confirmed a man was taken to St. Paul's after the incident. CanWest News could not obtain information on his condition Tuesday.

The well-dressed customer who made the callous remarks sat alone in her car at the curb, sipping her coffee and watching as the event unfolded.

Wellstead went home, but she was still upset Tuesday morning. "I can't get my head around it," she said. "I'm so upset. I was almost in tears.

"I know there are a lot of homeless people here and I know some of them can be annoying, but this was a human being.

"His blanket was on fire."



TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apathy; canada; canadianchristmas; canadiancompassion; canuckistan; christmascompassion; compassion; homeless; immolated; immolation; kindness
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To: tfecw

Sure.

Your a methodist twelve stepper.


81 posted on 12/14/2005 9:35:33 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Stoat

"What is this? Angry Seinfeld cast members? Are they angry with the stoat or are they angry with Canada?"

LOL, I forgot about that last episode. Seinfeld did a great story line on the "gang's" apathy. It was a biting commentary on what modern society in many places has devolved into. In the last episode they are all sentenced to jail. Perfect analogy. Unfortunately, in the real world, the bystanders drink their lattes and drive home to their warm beds.


82 posted on 12/14/2005 9:35:59 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: furquhart

In Toronto some years ago when I was up there, there was a ratty-looking guy aggressively panhandling the line of people standing outside the Pantages theater, and no authority figure chased him. I found it intimidating.


83 posted on 12/14/2005 9:38:15 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: indcons

Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you too!


84 posted on 12/14/2005 9:40:27 PM PST by khnyny (Merry Christmas)
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To: Stoat
In a culture that murders its unborn with the efficiency of a Henry Ford production line, whats one more lump of lifeless biological material more or less?

It's not like he was a source of revenue for anyone so that makes him worthless.

"Western Civilization" Accept no substitute.
85 posted on 12/14/2005 9:43:24 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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To: furquhart

You are indeed on FR.

But you seem to be pretty bitter IMHO.

Hey....tooks is dead....lighten up.

The guy might just be one of those irresponsible or down on his luck bums but likely he wasn't a turd like tookie and he likely was a human being in need of assistance unlike tooks.

He may end up making something (productive) of his life....you never know.


86 posted on 12/14/2005 9:50:49 PM PST by jaguaretype (Sometimes war IS the answer)
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To: Itzlzha
I do have one nit to pick....while I believe your explanation about group-think is spot on, unfortunately it also applies to (unfortunately) Right-Wing Statists who believe in total Gub'Mint authority.

You are absolutely right. Unless you train yourself not to react by groupthink, you will. I used to work in the Navy operating nuclear reactors. This is an environment where there is a strong sense of authority (chain of command), the views of your peers are highly respected (nuclear trained personnel), and the responsibility for the safety of a nuclear reactor is shared across the entire department. Not surprisingly, the Navy is aware of these characteristics and trains personnel very strongly on personal responsibility, how to refuse unlawful orders, and how to ask questions (and are trained that the only time that you shouldn't question an order is in a tactical situation). If the Navy didn't do this the probability of a nuclear accident would skyrocket. I have been in several situations where I've had to correct superiors and subordinates on problems. Without proper training it is very difficult to be in a room telling senior officers that they are wrong while your peers remain quiet.

There are several psychological experiments that show that diffusion of authority exists with the most famous one being the Milgram experiment. I find it easier to react in a diffusion of responsibility situation when I realize that other people in a group are reacting exactly the way I would expect them to react. I also look out for people to don't react normally because they are the type of people you could trust with your life.

87 posted on 12/14/2005 9:54:23 PM PST by burzum (Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.-Adm H Rickover)
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To: M203M4

"NOTHING justifies leaving someone burning in the gutter."

That's why I made my comment about "another reason to boycott Starbucks."


88 posted on 12/14/2005 9:57:58 PM PST by dsc
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To: dsc

It sounds like this so called nurse might have set this man on fire in order to look like a hero. She seems to go into the Starbucks a number of times to announce what she's doing.


89 posted on 12/14/2005 9:58:33 PM PST by Krankor (T)
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To: Stoat

First of all, how can the socialist utopias like Canada and Frisco have homeless, and second of all....oh forget it, who cares what's second.


90 posted on 12/14/2005 9:59:52 PM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: furquhart

I smell a TROLL


91 posted on 12/14/2005 10:03:18 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Krankor

See post #91...holds good for you too.


92 posted on 12/14/2005 10:05:23 PM PST by indcons
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To: Krankor

"It sounds like this so called nurse might have set this man on fire in order to look like a hero. She seems to go into the Starbucks a number of times to announce what she's doing."

I didn't read it that way. It was 10:30 at night; perhaps the Starbucks was the only thing open.

It was the reaction of the employees and customers of the Starbucks that pulled my chain, what with the lady sitting right in the smoke and ignoring it, and the waitress not wanting to call 911.

If those are the kind of people who work and drink at Starbucks, they can do it without me.


93 posted on 12/14/2005 10:08:02 PM PST by dsc
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To: furquhart
They're scum

You're the scum, pal

94 posted on 12/14/2005 10:10:04 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: dsc
If those are the kind of people who work and drink at Starbucks, they can do it without me.


95 posted on 12/14/2005 10:12:04 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Ciexyz
In Toronto some years ago when I was up there, there was a ratty-looking guy aggressively panhandling the line of people standing outside the Pantages theater, and no authority figure chased him. I found it intimidating. I live outside of Vancouver - in one of its major suburbbs, and the disease is, frankly, spreading. I'm regularly accosted in the parking lot of my office these days. At least once a week - in suburbia.
96 posted on 12/14/2005 10:15:24 PM PST by furquhart (Took-Took-Tookie-Goodbye)
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To: Palladin
"If you are homeless,have seizures, smoke, and sleep in a flammable blanket, better do it outside Dunkin' Donuts."


What tells me that this homeless guy will find an ambulance chasing attorney and sue the manufacturer of the comforter for it not being fire resistance or fire proof. It will be that way in the States.
97 posted on 12/14/2005 10:16:54 PM PST by antiunion person (It's all Bush's fault !!!)
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To: Welsh Rabbit

Yep. "Look at me" written all over it.


98 posted on 12/14/2005 10:19:33 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: umgud
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a while.

Light a man on fire, and he'll be warm the rest of his life.

That was...heartwarming.

99 posted on 12/14/2005 10:20:20 PM PST by MRMEAN (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: dsc

The story just doesn't seem real. One lady is sitting outside in the dead of winter talking on her cell phone? People just don't ignore the dead man, they actually go out of their way to denounce him? There doesn't appear to be any other witnesses to the selfish cutomers- not even Starbucks' employees?


100 posted on 12/14/2005 10:21:10 PM PST by Krankor (T)
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