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We were doing great in our discussion up to this paragraph. I do not like to be--and will not be--associated with "left-wing" for any reason. Conservatives can disagree over evolution without accusing each other of this "left-wing" garbage.

You took my point out of context. Excuse me if I was not clear, what I am referring to are the liberal court rulings that eliminated any expression of religion from the public arena. School prayer, for example, was eliminated around 1960.

My whole point was that many evos on FR will support what many Freepers consider liberal rulings(Establishment Clause) if it suits their current cause. Many have no problem having the Federal Courts come into States using the establishment clause to tell local schools what to do, which I find abhorrent and clearly a misinterpretation of the Constitution, especially in this case where all it is is a sticker.

Many FR evos also cheer on the ACLU when it suits them (Dover being a good example). That is all I was saying and I assumed it was common knowledge on FR.

[Coyoteman]

Thank you for the good response.

This problem with CS/ID/Evolution has been bad for FR and the Republican party.

As a scientist I absolutely cannot tolerate ID being taught as science. Anywhere else in schools, like sociology, anthropology, comparative religion, philosophy, etc., no problem.

I believe that ID, as it is currently being promoted, is based on a lie, and is designed to sneak Creation Science into the science classes after the Supreme Court decision of the late 1980s removed it. (I am aware that other forms of ID have been around for centuries or millenia.)

The Wedge Strategy spelled out the goals and methods for dishonestly sneaking ID into the classrooms, and it seems to me that that is just what we are seeing.

Most of your other points are accurate. I don't think many of us enjor seeing the current attempts to abolish "Christmas" in favor of "Holidays."

But there are certain fields that really should not be trashed. Science, and evolution, are among them. That is what separates us, and protects us, from the barbarians...for a while.

Anyway, thanks for the good discussion.

Out for the night. It's late and I haven't shaved ===> Placemarker <===