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"I was simply pointing out that Canadians can no more spearate their abhorence of certain US policies supported by Bush from the people who elected him any more than the left wing moonbats of the world can claim support for the troops while declaring they are losing the war.

"You see the difference now sharpy?

Nope. We have a significant difference of opinion on the relation between the voters and the politicians I'm afraid. No matter, let's stop the bickering about Canadian and US politics, and get back to the nuts and bolts of the ID/Evolution debate. Canadians and Americans aren't all that different as far a countries go anyway.

I'll be back later, I have to go tell a bedtime story to my grandson.

No matter, let's stop the bickering about Canadian and US politics, and get back to the nuts and bolts of the ID/Evolution debate.

OK, here's a blast from the past boys and girls:

The continuation of Michael Behe’s cross-examination:

Transcript, Wednesday October 19, AM

http://www2.ncseweb.org/kvd/trans/2005_1019_day12_am.pdf"

Transcript, Wednesday October 19, PM

http://www2.ncseweb.org/kvd/trans/2005_1019_day12_pm.pdf

Q. "Now yesterday, I asked you some questions about the designer's abilities. And you said, all we know about its abilities is that it was capable of making whatever we have determined is design. That's the only statement we can make about the designer's abilities?"
Behe "Yes."
Q. "And in terms of the designer's -- as a scientific statement?"
Behe: "That's correct."
Q. "And the only thing we know scientifically about the designer's motives or desires or needs is that, according to your argument, the only thing we would know scientifically about that is that it must have wanted to make what we have concluded as design?"
Behe: "Yes, that's right."
Q. "In fact, the only way we can make the statement scientifically that a designer exists is that it made whatever we conclude was design?"
Behe: "Yes, that's right."

Sharpy, I'm an American conservative who believes God created all. That makes me a creationist. My interest in ID/evolution threads is pretty much an exercise. My mind is made up there and has been for quite some time. Evolution, small e is a fact. ID, small id is a fact. Neither affects my worldview an iota.

If life was created from non life in the lab tomorrow, it would not affect my views at all.