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After Williams, a new dilemma for governor - Next: Gravely ill and blind man, 75, scheduled to die
San Francisco Chronicle ^
| 12/14/5
| Jim Doyle
Posted on 12/14/2005 7:41:04 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL
Put him out of his pain and suffering, he'll be happier for it and so will the tax payers of California.
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posted on
12/14/2005 9:39:39 AM PST
by
Lucky2
(MERRY CHRISTMAS)
To: Alouette
'He's a white guy. Nobody cares.'
You got that one right... No one cares about the white folk as long as they pay the bills for all the black folk and others...(illegal aliens esp.)
To: redtetrahedron
"...save on the medical bills we would have to pay to keep him alive...
Why do we give health care to people on death row, anyway? It seems to be counter-productive, to me."
Yeah, kind of like an oxymoron...
To: Triggerhippie
Only if Schiavo has a financial interest will this happen.
To: CharacterCounts
Hmmm, I guess it will be difficult for him to get stated writing childrens books.
I guess he could write them in braille.
85
posted on
12/14/2005 9:51:25 AM PST
by
John D
To: SmithL
Yet if this crook were out of prison, and his spouse wanted to pull a Michael Schiavo on him, the libs would be wanting to hasten his death.
To: SmithL
The left will want this guy euthanized because his life isn't worth living.
No controversy.
To: SmithL
well, according to these stupid libs, at least they agree that this guy hasn't written enough children's books to qualify for clemency.
88
posted on
12/14/2005 10:01:09 AM PST
by
HighWheeler
(RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
To: SmithL
89
posted on
12/14/2005 10:17:41 AM PST
by
nonliberal
(Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
To: SmithL
Since when have law and citizen sanctioned, court ordered death penalties of murderers enacting justice of behalf of victims become "dilemmas"??
When did we become Europe?
To: ErnBatavia
"because this guy looks white."
Kinda, he looks more like white sh-t.
91
posted on
12/14/2005 10:24:59 AM PST
by
kentj
To: Caveman Lawyer
"So he spikes the black prisoner and spares the white prisoner? I don't see that happening."
When you cut through the rhetoric, your conclusion is absolutely dead on. Unfortunately, this is the basis these kinds of decisions get made.
92
posted on
12/14/2005 10:39:09 AM PST
by
Spok
(Est omnis de civilitate.)
To: SmithL
LOL.
Actually, I believe this guy represents Liberals worst nightmare and I think they are too dumb to realize it.
Liberals, like the liberal SF Chronicle reporter, will probably argue that this guy is too old and ill to deserve the death penalty. It is only insensitive, compassion challenged conservatives that would insist on carrying out the death penalty on this old, defenseless man.
However, this guy is a walking endorsement for the death penalty. Why? Because he was originally sentenced to life imprisonment for ordering the murder of his son's 17 year old girlfriend. Liberals never tire of arguing that we do not need the death penalty because if we sentence murderers to life in prison they can never harm anyone else again.
Wrong! This monster was able to order the murder of eight innocent people from prison. And three people were actually murdered because of him. Hmm...He sounds like a living, breathing argument not only for the death penalty but for much needed reform so the death penalty can be carried out in a timely manner.
Maybe after conviction by a jury and one appeal rejected the sentence should be immediately carried out.
To: SmithL
From the article:
"Allen, who ran a security company in Fresno, was linked by prosecutors to a series of armed robberies in the Central Valley. He was sentenced to life in prison for ordering the murder in 1974 of his son's girlfriend. From behind bars at Folsom Prison, prosecutors said, he masterminded the murders in 1980 of three witnesses from his previous trial and conspired to kill four other witnesses."
GET ON WITH IT!
94
posted on
12/14/2005 11:18:54 AM PST
by
Checkers
To: SmithL
We're executing a 77 year old convicted murderer for hire here in Mississippi tonight. A man by the name of Nixon. Good riddance to him too.
95
posted on
12/14/2005 11:20:46 AM PST
by
onyx
((Vicksburg, MS) North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
To: KC_Conspirator
He is not white...he has a headband on
96
posted on
12/14/2005 11:45:00 AM PST
by
joesnuffy
(A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
To: TCats
my new CP rule: 3 appeals in 5 years max.( my fair,lengthy,arbitrary number) then you're done.
I often wonder why new DNA testing is good enough to free people wrongly on death row within a week, but not good enough to kill anyone rightly on death row in 10 years.
97
posted on
12/14/2005 11:49:06 AM PST
by
Rakkasan1
(Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
To: SmithL
he's blind? so that ol' liberal adage about 'an eye for an eye leaving everyone blind' really is true?
98
posted on
12/14/2005 11:52:58 AM PST
by
Rakkasan1
(Peace de Resistance! Viva la Paper towels!)
To: SmithL
"He's the oldest inmate on California's Death Row. ... He's enfeebled," Michael Satris, one of Allen's lawyers, said in an interview. "No prisoner in the state of California has ever been executed at that age. If he would have been done away with him 20 years ago...we wouldn't be at this point.
99
posted on
12/14/2005 12:11:21 PM PST
by
hattend
(Dang, it's cold up here.)
To: SmithL
"He's the oldest inmate on California's Death Row. ... He's enfeebled," Michael Satris, one of Allen's lawyers, said in an interview. "No prisoner in the state of California has ever been executed at that age.
"It's almost unprecedented worldwide," Satris said. "There hasn't been an execution in this country for more than 50 years of someone as old as Ray Allen."
Several condemned inmates at San Quentin are in their 70s, and more than two dozen are in their 60s. There wouldn't be all these geezers on death row if they'd been executed in a reasonable amount of time after their sentencing. And who is to blame for that? Why the same slime suckers, fees paid by the taxpayers in most cases, who are now decrying the situation. A pox on them.
100
posted on
12/14/2005 3:13:34 PM PST
by
El Gato
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