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To: indcons

I have to say, I don't find your implication that the bad neighbors were probably just Pakistanis to be a lot more tasteful than the original post.


40 posted on 12/14/2005 8:04:17 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory
I have to say, I don't find your implication that the bad neighbors were probably just Pakistanis to be a lot more tasteful than the original post.


I agree with you, but there is evidence to support the allegations against Pakistani immigrants, as indicated by the the other FReeper. Let me also add in that the source may be biased.

Indians break class barriers in UK

Tuesday Nov. 15, 2005, LONDON: Second-generation Indian immigrants are breaking their adopted country's class barriers with consistent ease and steaming ahead of much of white, black and brown Britain, new research has found.
The research, which tracked 140,000 children born in England and Wales over a 30-year period, found that a massive 56 per cent second-generation Indians sailed over class barriers and went into professional or managerial posts, compared with just per cent of white children.

In a further breakdown of what it called the "Indian success story", the study added that "Being Hindu or Jewish enhanced the probability of a professional/managerial class outcome, other things being equal, while being Muslim, Sikh or from a religious group other than the main religions made such a destination less likely".

However, the study admitted that today's immigrant successes could not discount the reality and dreadful toll of the so-called "ethnic penalty" levied on newer, foreign-origin claimants for jobs and positions.

The research said two-thirds of British Pakistani and Bangladeshi children remained static and at the same working class levels of their parents, thus languishing at the bottom of the UK's social and economic mobility ladder.

The study, commissioned by the Joseph Rowntree Foundation and conducted by Essex University sociologist Dr Lucinda Platt, is considered one of the most comprehensive attempts to track ethnic minority "life chances" in the world of Western opportunity. Platt concluded that the differing levels of South Asian success makes for caution "in what we claim for 'ethnicity' and what we attribute to it".

Platt said it was indisputable that British Indians were taking full advantage of the fact that an expansion in professional and managerial occupations over the past 30 years had created more "room at the top". But she cautioned that the "welcome progress" of Indians and Afro-Caribbeans was "no cause for complacency (because) Britain is still a long way from being a meritocracy where social class plays no part in determining children's chances of well-paid careers".
(Source : TNN)

59 posted on 12/14/2005 8:20:32 AM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: HostileTerritory; indcons

Actually Indcons is quite right. Most Americans dont seem to understand the difference between Indians and Pakis (and Bangladeshis) just because they all look the same. There is vast disparity in the average income levels, average education levels and crime rate between Hindus (+ Sikhs) and Pakistanis (+ Bangladeshis) almost everywhere including US, UK and Canada. A recent survey in the UK revealed the stark difference. Hindus (+ Sikhs)are 14 times more likely to get jobs as compared to Muslims. Hindus (+ Sikhs) are the richest community in UK (richer than Whites) while Pakistanis (and Bangladeshis) are the poorest. Indians almost always wrongly get clubbed with the Pakis and get subjected to hate crimes for the wrongdoing of Pakis. Sikhs even get killed for wearing turban and looking like Muslims when infact their religion was born to fight the Muslims.


137 posted on 12/14/2005 10:20:37 PM PST by Gengis Khan
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